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Lexus LS 400, Lexus LS 430, Sedan
Feb 09, 2004 (7:01 am)
Are you still looking at getting a 2004 LS 430 in Flint Mica? The annual DuPont car color research revealed that medium-dark gray was the #1 color on luxury cars, up from #6 last year (silver was #1 for all cars). The gray is extremely popular, and Lexus is even adding it to the ES 330 (via the limited edition SportDesign).
Also, did you happen to see the new Automobile magazine's wrap up of the Detroit Auto Show? Here's what they had to say about the new GS (a little off-topic, I know): "One of the least derivative sedan designs Lexus has proposed, the newest GS is smoother and far more interesting than the Mercedes clones Lexus has done in the past. Very nice." That bodes well for the next generation LS.
#5326 of 8465 A PIG IN SNOW
Feb 09, 2004 (10:29 am)
I OWN A 2001 LEXUS 430 ULTRA. I LIVE IN NEW YORK AND IT HAS BEEN A HELL OF A WINTER. THE BELOVED LEXUS CANNOT HANDLE SNOW. YOU CAN SHUT OFF THE VEHICLE CONTROL SYSTEM, TURN ON THE SNOW MODE, RAISE THE CAR AND THIS GREAT AUTO CANNOT PERFORM IN SNOW.
TO CONTINUE ITS EXCELLENCE THE LEXUS 430 MUST OFFER AN "AWD" MODEL. REALITY IS THAT THIS CAR IS NOT MADE FOR THE NORTHEAST... IT ACTUALLY CAME WITH SUMMER TIRES WHICH I REPLACED WITH MICHELIN MXV4.
Feb 09, 2004 (10:40 am)
I'm going to order the sports suspension LS by months end but the jury is still out on color. I'm between black, flint mica and cypress pearl. I've yet to see a cypress pearl but the showroom has one in and I'm going to see it later in the week. The car looks fabulous in black and the flint mica is stunning. Not sure of final outcome but I'll let you know. If somehow I can't get the sport suspension - it's not easy - I may go to the ultra.
Feb 09, 2004 (11:59 am)
I hear you. I have an '02 LS430 with SNOW tires and it STILL won't go up 1 inch of snow. I've got Michelin Artic Alpins on 17" wheels.
Incidentally, I keep a 92 LS400 with Bridgestone Blizzak's too. That car is absolute dynamite in the snow. It will go through practically anything.
For the more knowledgeable tire guys here:
1) Is the Blizzak just better than the Artic Alpins?
2) Or is the difference in tire size 15" on the 92 and 17" on the 02 causing the difference?
Feb 09, 2004 (12:06 pm)
I have a 2001 Ultra in Chicago. I wouldn't say it can't handle the snow. All things considered, I think it does very well. The traction control works fine. The VSC smoothly stops fish tailing. I have 17" rims with all season MXV4s. (Yes, the stock summer tires were worthless in the snow.) I wouldn't want to take it out in 4"+ of snow, but they plow all the streets I use.
#5331 of 8465 Snow and Tires
Feb 09, 2004 (5:56 pm)
Barry and SV:
I passed a neighbor at a stop sign last week. He was exchanging insurance information after his AWD Volvo SUV had rear-ended another car. His accident is a good example of how 4WD can lure one to drive at speed beyond the capabilities of braking and steering. AWD is clearly superior in acceleration on inclines, but its added weight and higher center of gravity are a disadvantage is steering and braking.
In my situation, ice is much more of a threat than deep snow. I have had a significant improvement in icy conditions with Blizzaks on my previous car (a 2000 E320) and with Dunlap M-3 on my 2004 LS430. Car and Driver magazine and CanadianDriver webb site have good articles on the merits of snow tires.
Feb 09, 2004 (8:54 pm)
A good set of snowchains on the rear drive wheels, RWD, AWD, or 4WD, will improve the overall driving/handling experience in snow dramatically.
Feb 10, 2004 (10:24 am)
Take a test drive of the LS with and without the Sport Suspension. I took delivery of a moonlight SP two weeks ago and am thoroughly enjoying the sport suspension. For $225, what a deal! The 18" wheels and tighter ride is quite an improvement over my prior '99 LS.