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Lexus LS 400, Lexus LS 430, Sedan
#4490 of 8465 Erad98 and LS 430 vs. 540i
Aug 10, 2003 (8:50 am)
I recently made this decision. For my wife's recent special birthday we traded her 2001 LS430 for a 540ia. Mind you there was nothing wrong with the Lexus. It was just due for tires and overdue for the 30,000 mi. service. My wife (thanks to me) has become a "car guy" and we trade for fun, not necessity. Let me say that the comfort, ergonomics, reliability, and dealer service with the Lexus have been top notch. That said, when we each drove the current iteration of the 540i, our mouths wouldn't close and we were hooked. The car is simply (even with auto), the best driver we've ever experienced, by far. We got all the "toys" with it including the M-inspired sport pkg.(with steptronic shift), premium sound with CD, premium pkg., and Nav. Although everything works and works well, the Nav.'s graphics require squinting and don't compare to the LS. Interestingly, I find the radio does compare to the ML in the LS with better base, to my ears. Other little things include covered first 4 yr. maintainence and an excellent local dealer (very important). These are very different cars and each are a thing of beauty. I feel that the current 5 series out for several years, which is now been changed, has proven reliable and would shy away from the new "5" for a year or more. Obviously, we don't keep cars long. The change and fun factors influenced our decision, not any dissatisfaction with Lexus.
#4491 of 8465 Aniline leather pt 2
Aug 10, 2003 (3:08 pm)
Several months ago I asked you guys what aniline leather was.
The reply was only partially correct.
Aniline actually refers to the dyeing process.
The leather is soaked in drums and the dye goes all the way through it.
Because of this process only the BEST and clearest hides are used.
Which may explain why it is softer.
In most cars only the top of the leather is pigmented(not dyed). It is often embossed to make it look more regular and to hide flaws in the hide.
Did you guys know that all of the leather in today's cars are either clearcoated or scotchguarded?
Good to see that Lexus is going the extra mile to reach this level of quality.
#4492 of 8465 Aniline Leather
Aug 11, 2003 (6:49 am)
Lots of misinfomation about what aniline leather is on the car forums.
The leather is softer both because of the higher grade used and also because the paint coating used in non-aniline leather is slightly stiff.
The reason the leather in the ecru ultra-lux isn't aniline is because it isn't possible to stain something white that is dark (that would be bleaching, not staining). So, they use a pigmented leather paint instead. Both of them get the clear coat afterwards regardless. That's why it is SEMI-aniline instead of a true aniline, which wouldn't have a coating at all and would therefore be very susceptable to dirt, discoloration, and other stains. True aniline leather would not hold up well in a car.
Lots more information available about all of this from high-end furniture companies that use all these types of leather in their products.
Aug 11, 2003 (7:15 am)
Don't know if you caught it before the post was deleted (I didn't know I wasn't supposed to post links to other message boards), but there is a post on ClubLexus that references a Popular Mechanics article predicting a next generation LS for 2005, apparently MY 2005. Its in the LS430 forum under a thread titled LS450. The poster points out that Popular Mechanics was first in predicting the GX.
Aug 11, 2003 (7:58 am)
Did anyone hear the results of the CNBC "test" of the SC 430? I believe that it was to be announced last Friday.
Aug 11, 2003 (7:58 am)
I haven't read through the posts but that picture looks like a mocked up ES to me. On first look I don't think that is the next generation LS. It's not a formal enough looking car.
Aug 11, 2003 (8:50 am)
Send me your email address (or add it to your profile) and I can send you a listing of all the custom settings for the LS. I's too big to post here.
Aug 11, 2003 (9:08 am)
I went back and looked at your post 4433 and took a closer look at the 2004. I think they made it a bit more formal than the 2001-2003 years - closer to the old LS400 style in front. The more I look at the 2004 the more awesome I think it looks. I can't imagine Lexus making that 2005 computer generated pix become the new car. I also believe the next gen car is in 2006 and maybe even in 2007 with a Spring 2006 debut.
The pix of the building where that 2004 LS is photographed is also pretty impressive.
Aug 11, 2003 (9:24 am)
Listened to opera on the ML over the weekend. By pushing the fader 3 or 4 steps above neutral, the soundstage at a reasonably loud level made us felt like the 5th row in Lincoln Center Avery Fisher Hall. Amazing soundstage. Amazing.
My 5 yr old son is learning how to open the frig in the back; helping himself to bottle water and soda. I have not taught him how to change the stereo, but I am sure that's coming. If there were as much leg room in the back as my S500; the wife might join him, as the backseats are really comfortable.
Planning a long trip down to D.C. this Labor Day. Will probably drive further to VA and have dinner at The Inn at Little Washington.
Think I'll put about 800-900 miles all together.
Aug 11, 2003 (9:31 am)
The report on CNBC was preempted by a President speech. It'll re-run today at 140PM.