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#9614 of 12737 div2, reiz, shipo, & the rest of the E39 lovers
Dec 07, 2004 (8:50 pm)
I'm still one of you guys. I think the E39 is a handsome car with great driving dynamics and I especially love the wraparound interior. Of the E39s my favorites are (in no particular order) probably the 1998 E39 540i Sport, followed by the E39 M5, and finally the 2003 E39 530i Sport. However I feel I have betrayed you. My family has patronized Chris Bangle (the anti-christ of modern BMW design).
Almost 3 years ago, my Mom rejected the idea of repalcing her 1998 MB CLK 320 with an '02 E39 530iA due to the fact that AWD was not available (we had a few bad winters and she like many other suburban NYers felt they HAD to have AWD) and the recently introduced E46 330xi was in short supply, high demand, and was selling at MSRP. She ended up with an '02 Audi A6 3.0 Quattro. What a mistake. Her Audi has had various recalls and a transmission problem that was always diagnosed with "they all do that" along with the fact that it ate brakes (paid fopr by Audi) and the 3 week to 1 month wait at the dealership for a service appointment (kinda tells makes you think). She's been unhappy to say the least with the car since about the third week.
SO the fact that my Dad LOVES his '04 X5 3.0iA w/ SP convinced my Mom she should look at BMW this time around. She thought the 330xi was a little too tight for her (many of her friends don't drive on parkways and such so she ends up driving all over) and she didn't particularly like the X3's styling. SO she saw an '05 E60 530i sitting on the showrrom floor and she absolutely said she loved the way it looked (should have seen the look of bewilderness and confusion on my face). So despite the fact that it doesn't have AWD, we took it for a ride. That sold her, even without BMW's famed sport suspension the car handled well, has ample power, a luxurious & spacious interior.
SO today after a few back and forth phone calls, we pulled the trigger and she'll be the proud new driver of an '05 E60 530iA with Premium Package, Xenon Headlights, Steptronic, & Cold weather package.
We got a pretty decent deal too:
Selling Price: $47,662 (bit more than $1200 over invoice)
Lease for 36 months with 15,000 miles per year and 8.125% Sales Tax rolled into the lease
$0 Cap Cost Reduction
Dec 08, 2004 (4:44 am)
"BTW, I feel the same way about the damn cupholders and the legions who complain about them as you do about AS and its fans."
Cassidymů I criticize cars not the people who buy them. Because there are two sides to a fence there is often contention, but please don't confuse the two
Dec 08, 2004 (8:38 am)
I, too, am looking to pull the trigger on a 530i. I am in a similar situation, where I've driven Quattro AUdi's for the last 6-7 years. I had a different experience with my Audi's, as I have an excellent dealership. I get Audi loaners on my A8 that's been out of warranty for 2 years and have no problem making an appointment with 1-3 days of a call. My wife leased an '01 A6, and it drove nicely without any issues other than overly squeaky brakes.
That being said.....these are different animals. I saw Audi as a cross between a Lexus and BMW- with AWD. More plush interior than BMW, and a ride smack dab in the middle between the smooth and bland Lexus feel and the excellence of BMW's road manners. BMW's interiors, to me, always seemed understated and classy. Not too much going on, no crazy gauges or lighting, etc. I feel that I am in a substantial and luxury vehicle that is made for driving.
We were swept up in the AWD craze as well. NEEDED to have it. Then when we realized that even with a rough metropolitan winter we only really have 7-8 days where there's appreciable snow, it was folly to make that a decision based on 1/52 of the year.
Anyway, I'm at the point where we have an SUV for family travel and I would like something that is enjoyable to drive. I travel frequently along the east coast in the spring and summer, and can't think of a better vehicle to do so in than the 5'er. Also, I hated the new look of BMW when it first appeared.....but strangely I have grown to like the distinct lines. No idea why...
#9617 of 12737 "rough metropolitan winter"
Dec 08, 2004 (9:27 am)
LOL, most folks in the NY/NJ/CT metro area have no idea how mild their weather really is. :^)
#9618 of 12737 Question for jbf5
Dec 08, 2004 (2:38 pm)
While in a search, I came across your mention a few months back of the XM direct install. As I am looking at a 530i, it is a feature I've been unable to garner any info about, yet is quite important to me.
Does this work directly through the I-drive and screen features, i.e., does the XM display and info appear in that form?
#9619 of 12737 CPO Question
Dec 08, 2004 (4:12 pm)
I understand BMW of Manhattan is owned by BMW AG-Westchester BMW too. Does anyone know if this is correct? If so, I assume they have no cost for a 5 series CPO certificate. Can anyone confirm this.
Dec 08, 2004 (8:06 pm)
BMW of Manhattan and Westchester BMW are both wholly owned subsidiaries of BMW USA. LLC. I have no idea about their cost (or lack there of) of a CPO certificate.
#9621 of 12737 Re: CPO Question [lwhite]
Dec 08, 2004 (8:07 pm)
Think about this. Why would a manufacturer give a company store free CPO certificates just because they were a company store? This would destabilize the market, make evaluating the dealership managers impossible, and , in any case, be unnecessary since no other comparable dealer would have that cost advantage.
This is not to say that a sales guy couldn't intimate this in a sales pitch with with a customer: "Our costs are lower because we are company owned."
#9622 of 12737 On the way to work today..
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Dec 09, 2004 (8:16 am)
My wife is out of town on a business trip, so for the past couple of days, I've actually been able to drive her 325i to work.. I'm tooling up the freeway, feeling good.. and what do I see?
E39 M5 in dark grey... Suddenly, I felt like I was in a Geo Metro.. I've started thinking that the E39 is looking a little dated.. but, all dressed up with the M5 stuff, and with those massive tires? Yeeehaaaahhh
#9623 of 12737 Re: On the way to work today.. [kyfdx]
Dec 09, 2004 (8:25 am)
BMW's never look dated to me. I currently have a nice front shot of a 2002tii as my wallpaper and it looks reasonably up-to-date.
I'm not sure the Bangle-era designs will age as well as past styles.