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BMW 5 Series, Sedan
Aug 29, 2004 (5:53 am)
"1994 Acura Legend,191,000mi"
I can sympathsize. I got rid of a Toyota at 80K miles. For the last 20K major components were failing left and right and it was starting to run into $$$. That and three other below average ownership experiences with Japanese cars has steered me away from them. My reasoning is, if I going to have problems, might as well have fun driving, eg German cars.
But we all know a sample size of one means zilch. There are plenty of examples on these boards where Japanese cars get driven to the Ultimate Nightmare experience. Yet out of the thousands of stellar sales and owners, one bad experience sticks out like a sore thumb. People keep saying how they keep their BMWs for 300K+ with regular maintenance. I've never seen any car over 100K, without regular maintenance and $$$ the car is not fit to be one the road.
Good luck with yours.
#9313 of 12737 kdshapiro
Aug 29, 2004 (9:18 am)
Not so fast-my 1987 535is recently made it to 300,00, but now it needs a head gasket. Another case of inadequate German engineering...
#9314 of 12737 Re: kdshapiro [div2]
Aug 29, 2004 (9:32 am)
What a piece of junk. Seriously though good to hear it waited until 300K miles.
#9315 of 12737 Newbie testdriver
Aug 29, 2004 (9:45 pm)
What does E39 and E60 stand for? Are these abbreviations for the 528 and 530???
Another, more important question: I test drove today, and am seriously considering buying a 530i sport/premium in Southern California. The car comes with Bridgestone Potenza run-flat tires. These tires seem to make the ride feel very rough---every nook and cranny in the road is transferred to the passengers, my teeth were almost chattering. I don't want to give up a smooth ride, and I really want the handling and suspension that the sport model offers.
I currently drive a Jaguar XJR with 370 hp and very good handling, fun to drive (no fun at service center--teeth chatter from fear there). It has Potenza S-03 255/40/18 tires and has a much smoother ride.
Will replacing the run/flat tires seriously improve the ride of the car? Or does part of the roughness of the ride also have something to do with the suspension? The dealership will only sell the car with these run/flat tires. Salesman was unhelpful/unknowledgeable.
#9316 of 12737 Re: kdshapiro [kdshapiro]
Aug 30, 2004 (2:27 am)
I know the feeling. My 1986 325eS with a mere 229000 miles on it just blew out the water pump. And the head gasket; leaking like a colander. And don't get me started on the clutch. Actually had to replace the original after only 140000 miles.
Truth is, for about $3K in repairs, it could easily make it to 300K but enough is enough. Just ordered a 2005 545I six speed. Hope I get have the same good luck
Aug 30, 2004 (4:41 am)
New cars with run flat tires do not have a spare tire. The dealer cannot change to normal tires till you buy the car to keep from being sued.
#9318 of 12737 What does E39 and E60 stand for?
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Aug 30, 2004 (5:27 am)
E39.. 5-series from '97-'03
E60.. 5-series from '03-
E46.. Current model 3-series
E90.. 3-series starting in '06
#9319 of 12737 Re: Newbie testdriver [jlapcat]
Aug 30, 2004 (5:51 am)
The run-flat tires are almost certainly the cause of the rough(er) ride that you've noticed. Run-flat tires have extremely stiff sidewalls so that the tire can still support the weight of the car when flat. Standard tires (even fairly low-profile, sport tires) have much more flex in the sidewalls which absorb shocks and contribute to a smoother ride.
The 5 series is widely recognised as having one of the best, possibly the best, handling/ride combinations available.
#9320 of 12737 Misc...
Aug 30, 2004 (6:12 am)
E39.. 5-series from '97-'03
E60.. 5-series from '04- (I know that kyfdx knows that, probably just a typo)
Rough riding 530i SP: Hmmm, having never driven with Run Flats, my suggestion is that maybe the dealership forgot to remove the extra pressure in the tires (cars are shipped with lots of extra pressure in the tires to inhibit bouncing while in transit). My first BMW was delivered to me with something like 50+ pounds in the tires. Not only was it rough riding, the handling was so squirrelly that I was barely able to control it on a bumpy road.
FWIW, I have an E39 530i SP, and the ride is quite wonderful, so much so that even the couple of elderly folks that I've had in it have commented on how smooth it was.
#9321 of 12737 Re: Misc... [shipo]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Aug 30, 2004 (6:25 am)
Thanks!! I always need back-up...
Run flat tires suck.. (did I say that out loud?). Getting the pressure checked is a good idea, but really... run flat tires s...
Unfortunately, it looks like we will have to get used to it.. it looks like all BMWs will have them soon.