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#8250 of 12737 Misc...
by shipo
Jan 24, 2004 (12:28 pm)
Kyfdx, glad I could be of service.
Stl540, okay, I'll give it a try:
1) two (1999 328i and 2002 530i)
2) 1999, see above
3) five and a half years
4) 46
5) I appreciate both hi-tech cars and low-tech cars
My impressions of the new crop of BMWs:
Z4 -- I like it
5-Series -- I absolutely detest it
6-Series -- I love it
7-Series -- I dislike it but not as much as the 5-Series
So, did I muddy the waters too much.
Best Regards,
Shipo
Jan 24, 2004 (1:01 pm)
1) one 2002 330i)
2) 2002, see above
3) 20 years
4) shipo's ageish
5) Both, but hi tech cars generally offer more safety equipment, a low tech car would not have ABS and DSC for example.
My impressions of the new crop of BMWs:
Z4 -- I like it
5-Series -- I like it as much as current five series, 4.9 stars
6-Series -- I like it 5 stars
7-Series -- I like it maybe not 5 stars but 4.5
#8252 of 12737 Here goes
by kyfdx HOST
Jan 24, 2004 (2:02 pm)
1)Two ('03 325i, '67 2000CS)
2)1967 (owned from '85-'90)
3)Lately...just a couple of years
4}shipo-ish (nice one, kd)
5}not a luddite
Z4-- Looks are growing on me.. still hate the rear-end. Test drove one....WOW
5-series-- I like it better than the 7
7-series-- not so much.. horizontal tail light doesn't work with the two main tail lights. that is why I like the 5 better..it doesn't have that.
6-series-- its okay...not a fan of big two-door coupes.
Jan 24, 2004 (2:24 pm)
1)Three ('01 525i, '03 325Xi, '04 525)
2)2001
3)Since I bought the first one.
4}51
5}simplicity is better, but I'm comfortable with technology.
Z4-- I like it -- the front and sides are possibly the best Bangle design before the 6...though the stumpy rear end is off-putting.
5-series-- Own one and like it. Drives beautifully. Still think E39 was one of the best cars ever built, tho.
7-series-- Too fussy, overall. Over the top with technology that could be simpler. Least favorite.
6-series-- Best of the lot so far.
#8254 of 12737 Here's my input
by warthog
Jan 24, 2004 (4:13 pm)
1. One.
2. 2003 530i
3. Two years or so.
4. 55.
5. I like technology, provided it’s an improvement over previous solutions and is reliable.
As for the current crop (all comments are aesthetic as I’ve driven none of them):
Z4—Marvelous design
E60—Hideous exterior, particularly the 1950’s women’s sunglasses look to the headlights, and ho-hum interior
New 6—Very nice in photos, except the stupid Bangle rump
New 7---Again, hideous, except in the 7 the rump is worse than the headlight treatment.
#8255 of 12737 2004 545 - Yes or No to Sport Package
by 545question1
Jan 24, 2004 (7:53 pm)
I am getting ready to order a 545 and the 1 option I can't decide on is whether to get the sport package. I test drove a 545 w/o sport - dealer didn't have 545 w/ sport (also test drove 530 w/ sport, but totally different car with smaller engine). One salesperson said don't get it, two others said get it citing better resale value and great drive w/ sport. Any advice on the pros (resale, performance?) and cons (priced at $3300, reliability, new technology?) of sport package? Many thanks.
Jan 24, 2004 (9:38 pm)
shipo, wow, I never thought about the car wash explanation for the rain sensor. That is interesting, thanks....now one logical reason not to gripe for the rain sensor issue.
as for the survey
1. 1st time BMW owner
2. 2003 530i
3. 1992; followed BMWs since I was 18 after driving my uncles new 535.
4. I am 29.
5. I love tech gadgets but only if its useful and intuitive.
#8257 of 12737 My "History"
by div2
Jan 24, 2004 (11:51 pm)
My survey answers:
1. six
2. 1973 Bavaria 3.0
3. 33 years
4. 47
5. Sophisticated technology is great-IF it serves a legitimate purpose. I loved my old E3, but the Motronic engine management, SRS, and ABS on my track rat allow it to be faster, safer, and more reliable. What bothers me about much of the new technology in the E60 and E65 is the fact that it makes the driving experience more complex without providing any useful benefits. I was prepared to like I-Drive but I find the interface cumbersome and non-intuitive(FWIW, I am NOT averse to technology; I build/repair my home PCs and I select-and sometimes install-ICE and home theater systems for my friends). As for the current direction of BMW design, I don't care for the E65, and I find the E60 a much less graceful and cohesive design compared to the E39. It almost looks like an Accord or Camry. I do like the X3 and the spy photos I've seen of the new 3er. The Z4 has grown on me, as has the 645i. What I REALLY, REALLY don't like is Munich's abandonment of the "cockpit" style interior layout first introduced on the E12. The flat wood covered dashes of the E60 and E65 look like they were lifted from a Buick Park Avenue. I hope the rumor that Bangle is being shown the door is true. I think Munich needs to get back to doing what it does best-building ATTRACTIVE sport sedans and coupes that utilizes technology that assists the driver rather than overwhelming him/her.
#8258 of 12737 5 Series
by pcp2
Jan 25, 2004 (5:23 am)
What should I buy? 545 or 330 Convert?
$ is not the problem.
Jan 25, 2004 (5:26 am)
"What should I buy? 545 or 330 Convert?"
Go for the vehicle that puts the biggest grin on your face. The 545 has larger dimensions, more luxury items, faster, not as nimble. The 330i convert is more nimble, not as large, less luxury and has a rag top.