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BMW 5 Series, Sedan
Nov 03, 2003 (5:41 am)
I am considering a 1995 540, automatic, black with black leather, 100,000 miles. The car looks great, drives great. It is original owner, local. I believe the car was babied and serviced properly. Since this would be my first BMW, I would like to know what to look out for, and if the $11,500 asking price is good. I have a 60 mile RT commute through country roads, no stop and go traffic, and am looking for a comfortable, fun car to drive, but I am a little concerned about potential maintenance cost and potential major problems.
#7773 of 12737 Can you spell nikasil?
Nov 03, 2003 (6:52 am)
There are many potential issues on a 95 540. If you don't know about the nikasil blocks BMW used on early 540s, you have some investigating to do. Start here: www.lestac.co.uk/bmw/nikasil.htm . Wanna low maint car, it's not BMW. They are GREAT cars, they just take some maintenance, and lots of that maintenance is costly.
If you love the drive of a BMW, and are willing to pay the price in maintenance, then it may be your car. If not, look at Acura, Lexus, Honda, Toyota, et all.
#7774 of 12737 I-drive...........
Nov 03, 2003 (8:04 am)
This is new from just about everyone's perspective. Think that once you've done the operations they'll begin to become routine.
Radio controls do not have to be accessed through the I-drive screen. Steering wheel controls can be used to scan through all the pre-sets and control volume plus a mute button. The steering wheel has two programable buttons that can be set for memory to do any climate settings, nav, or phone functions. The single disc in dash cd player below the climate control selectors has a volume control and scan button.
So, that's radio and climate without I-drive.
It's similar to getting a new computer at home. You program it to do what you want and get on with your driving.
Seats are memory and there are many different settings just like any other lux sedan. It's a one time shot. You set the seat options and that's it. It you want to tinker with seats then you tinker with the seats.
It simplifies all the cool convenient functions that enhance the experience and reduces eye travel while driving. Plus, you can just turn the monitor off while your driving if it is a distraction.
Nov 03, 2003 (8:26 am)
Our first batch of 525's showed up friday. We're a fairly small dealer but we sold two (I sold one) of them saturday. I also delivered one of the last new M5's in the country. Man, that car is special, too bad it's done.
People love this new 5!
#7776 of 12737 I-drive, but..
Nov 03, 2003 (8:27 am)
BMWSeller has a very good point. However, the counter to this is BMWs track record with electronics. They have many gremlins with the basic stuff at which Toyota/Honda excel: memory seats, interior lights controlled by door openings, etc. The X5 has the adaptive brake light feature. Cool. My X5 was in the shop, twice, 7 days total for a problem with it.
That's what really bothers me about I-drive. Car in the shop for some feature I really don't need or even want.
I have an 03 530i and I really like it. However, I'd really like an E28 body/electronics, E28s M5 suspension, with the current 3.0 punched out to 3.5! Yep, I'd take 2 and put one away for when the 1st one expired. Should have kept the old E28 and performed a motor transplant!
Happy Motoring = DSC off,
#7777 of 12737 iDrive
Nov 03, 2003 (9:44 am)
bmwseller... Read C&D's comments on iDrive and other quirks. (Which agree with nearly every published report I've seen on iDrive.) I concur with C&D's comments. They had problems after 18 months. I couldn't get it to work, either. Not intuitive. Didn't simplify anything. Adds cost, complexity, and distracts from driving.
For example, I couldn't find or set the radio stations I wanted. Didn't help me to listen to the radio stations someone else had pre-set.
Maybe even worse than iDrive, if there can be such a thing, was just getting the car into Drive to start off and into Park at the end. Bizarre. Off putting.
Nov 03, 2003 (10:17 am)
Thanks Jack, I had no idea. The website was very helpful. Definitely makes me stop and think. I don't mind spending some money on maintenance, and know it will be more costly than a lexus es300 of similar year and mileage, but nikasil, huh? Other than that "minor" issue, knowing the information about the car, any other thoughts?
#7779 of 12737 put off..........
Nov 03, 2003 (10:21 am)
Some people were probably put off by indoor plumbing at first.
Look, I'm not going by some magazine review. I'm around the cars all the time with clients who are learning about and using the product. My main point is that the technology has clear benefits. And, that upon one's first evaluation it will be an adjustment for people. If you don't think it's worth adjusting to then keep using the outhouse.
I can show a client how to use everything on the car in about 20 minutes or so. I had a "first time" in the car myself and I was able to put it in gear in less than a minute.
Try voice command next time....push voice command button on steering wheel.....say "radio" then station "102.3", and it will go to 102.3. Easy, and you barely take your eyes off the road for a split second, if at all.
#7781 of 12737 545 [potential] buyer
Nov 03, 2003 (11:00 am)
I was wondering if anyone on the boards has purchased an '04 545? I'm thinking buying one, and was curious what impressions anyone has that has driven/owned one.
I really appreciate reading all of the comments on this board--very helpful to hear everyone's opinion. I started out liking the new 5 styling, went and test drove a 525 and liked it, but not enough power. I then read this board, and was starting to think 'hey, what's wrong with me--why do I like it when most posters don't like it?'--but, of course, everyone has their opinions.
In '02, I bought a new E320. I had more problems with that car than any other ever owned (replaced rear shock, replaced driver's seat, electrical system/built in phone nightmare, front fog light burning out every two weeks or so). I realize I probably got a bad one out of a batch of good ones, but it scared me from MB for the time being (and I really like the new styling). I'm also looking for something more sporty, with room for 3 kids in the back.
I really, really like the prior 5 series styling, and was thinking of a 540. I hesitate to look for an E39 however since it is now 'the old style'--shouldn't be that big of a deal since I like the styling, but I like the new too. The new styling is different, and I like it too (not as much as the old, I have to say, but still like it). I'm also a full-fledged techno-geek, and am looking forward to playing with idrive. I also want the performance of the 545 over the 530. I read some people complaining about the price increase, and from my observations, there have been a number of improvements to the 5--I'm curious why all the complaints (although I realize that some that are complaining also don't like the styling, and this may be one basis for not wanting to pay more).
Finally, I'm leaning toward silver--silver grey metallic or the lighter silver. Any opinions? Thanks