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BMW 5 Series, Sedan
#7502 of 12737 Headlights, I-drive, and the like
Oct 08, 2003 (4:14 am)
I, for one, am a little concerned about technology for technology's sake and the unintended consequences on the long term maintenance / value of the new 5-series.
I admit to not having seen the new turning headlights. But the old fashioned fog lights on my 1995 Maxima illuminate sideways very well and the xenon's on my S2000 are equally functional. Simple technology? How many cars with pop up headlights have "winkers" after 6-7+ years? Funny, nobody's doing pop up headlights anymore that I am aware of, in spite of their purported aerodynamic advantages. And even Porsche had gotten in on that fad.
Even the navigation systems, which I think have significant underlying merit and functionality, are based upon computer technology that has a life cyle of about 20% the average BMW car. I have a 9 year old Maxima that looks and runs great. How many of us still have a 9 year old 486 computer on their desk? I know of someone who literally traded their perfectly fine 2000 M5 for a 2001 M5 so that they could get the bigger 7" navigation screen. And I'm sure that a 9" one with higher resolution is around the corner. In the case of navigation systems, I would be all for a universal docking device behind the dash that allowed you to pluck out the old one and pop in the new one. But no, the only way right now to upgrade is to sell the $50k or, in the case of the M5 $75k, docking device.
I may change my strategy and start leasing on a three year cycle, but if and when I buy a new 5 series, E-class or other $50k+/- sedan, I'd like to think I won't have an obsolete car in 5-6+ years or one that forces me to drive in concentric circles to get to my destination at night.
Let's not forget that what makes BMW a great CAR is not electronic do-dads.
#7503 of 12737 Re: have been available for many months now and no problems have arisen
Oct 08, 2003 (4:19 am)
OK. It does seem as though the "center" is the last to know. My wife asked about right rear ashtray not staying seated on her X5. The "center" said, "never heard of that one". I get on the internet and in minutes find literally hundreds of people with the same problem.
Mr. BMWSeller, is your info from "clients" or the official word from Munich/Woods Lake?
#7504 of 12737 billbrox - headlights
Oct 08, 2003 (5:28 am)
Sorry, I think you might have misunderstood. You're probably seeing self-levelling on your E39, it's normal (and useful). Have your dealer check it out if you want but he'll probably say the same thing. I know that's a typical dealer response but this time it could be true.
kdshapiro - Citroen are apparently doing quite nicely in Europe where they market some pretty cool cars. They had a hissy fit over N American litigious restrictions on auto technology and pulled out rather than fight it.
Oct 08, 2003 (5:46 am)
karmikan - the fax machine was invented in the 1920's. However, before they became ubiquitous in everyones home, it took the age of the personal computers to come about some 60 years later. I don't know about you, but now that you can get a fax for $99 or less you can have multiple machines in one household.
IBM didn't invent the computer either.
The same with the swivel headlights, someone, BMW, is taking the technology to the next level. Although they didn't invent it. The same with the variable ratio steering. I'm sure BMW didn't invent it. But it took the time to productize it in a way suitable for it's automobiles. Actually now that I think about it, the same holds for the internal combustion engine, brakes, tires, wheels.
#7506 of 12737 headlights and baseball
Oct 08, 2003 (6:09 am)
Citroen survived but it was Tucker that had a flame out in their "third eye" rotating headlight..
What is it with people from Georgia and NY rooting for the Red Sox?? Are you all ex-New Englanders?
habitat1: I couldn't agree with you more!! I am a retired engineer so I'm not averse to technology; far from it! But there is a limit to what should be foisted onto consumer products. An interplanetary space vehicle needs every last bit of hi-tech to ensure a safe mission, but cars never intentionally leave the ground and primarily are meant to move people from point A to B with varying degrees of thrills and comfort. Automatic climate control and moonroofs are nice to have and are worth the possible repair bills. I would rather a world class suspension than a nav system, myself. I still know how to read a physical map and they are free from AAA, which you need to have if your car has too much technology in it..!
#7507 of 12737 citroen............
Oct 08, 2003 (6:44 am)
tough crowd. Citroen had the lights that would pivot but they were not speed sensitive without which the feature is useless and maybe even dangerous.
JOATMAN......I'm in peoria. My experiences are based on client and product interaction at the dealer level. No reports of problems with the active headlights from peoria.
#7508 of 12737 Red Sox Clarification
Oct 08, 2003 (10:06 am)
microrepair, sorry for the confusion. I had to pull for the Red Sox and Cubs in the opening rounds. In the Northeast Yanks/Sox is nirvana. Then, Yanks/Cubs in WS is a no lose situation for Yank fans, that is, if Cubs win Red Sox take indisputable possession of BB history's basement... payback in spades for haughty Celtic fans of yesteryear and wisecrack from Garciaparra several years ago. Would be funny if he pulled a Bill Buckner in game 7 against Yanks. Such is the sick thinking of a born and bred Bronx man.
All in fun!! I love Beantown and all of its folks!! Gotta admit, this promises to be good and I'll tip my hat if Sox win! And no, I really do not wish that on Garciaparra.
Oct 08, 2003 (3:07 pm)
Anyone have any experience with Falken tires? I was all decided on the Bridgestone Turanzas, but Consumers rated the Falkens higher and they're much cheaper. Thanks.
#7510 of 12737 E39 winter tire set up:
Oct 10, 2003 (8:30 am)
I'm looking for a set of winter tires for my 99' 528i and I would like to avoid the heavy price tag if at all possible. (i.e. tirerack.com) Any suggestions as to which tires will give me the best performance vs. traction in the ice/snow? Also, what sizes are typically the best for winter tires? Is it better to get them mounted on a set of steel rims? I see that ebay is a good option, but I don't want to purchase tires that will not fit or hinder the handling of my car.
Your suggestions are appreciated!
Oct 10, 2003 (11:45 am)
In my experience I don't think you are going to find anything out there cheaper than Tire Rack.Hope someone on the board knows of one.Your snow tires should go on 15 or 16 inch tires depending on what size you have and they should be steel rims. Tire Rack prices have saved me at least 2 hundred dollars on a set of four. If you have the 17 inch rims you must use the 16 inch ones for snow tires.