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BMW 5 Series, Sedan
Jul 09, 2003 (10:49 am)
Wow! I thought my question might have slipped through the cracks, but apparently not. I am very new to this BMW world, my last two cars were pre 1998 Americans for which I relied on Havoline, for what that's worth. I'd like to keep my 5er for a while and want to sound reasonbly intelligent when I take it in for service...
So, I will be asking questions and listening for resposes for a while.....this lesson was very intersting!
#6922 of 12737 Put in order for E60 in US have question
Jul 09, 2003 (4:25 pm)
put in order on E60 last week 530 w/ manual trans, orient blue, premium, sport, logic 7, adaptive headlights and dealer called me today to advise they want a $2,500 deposit that is non-refundable. Reason they stated is if I were to back out at delivery they would have trouble moving a Manual.
I replied with it does not make sense for me to put down a non-refundable deposit on a car when they can not even tell me what the car will cost.
Anyone else been required to put down non-refundable deposit down on ordered car due to being manual rather than automatic?
#6923 of 12737 corkdsp1
Jul 09, 2003 (5:26 pm)
I would be inclined to find a different dealer. The norm is more like $500, and it is refundable.
#6924 of 12737 Nonrefundable deposit
Jul 09, 2003 (5:43 pm)
I am with Shipo- find another dealer. If he can't sell a new model 5 with a manual when it first comes out, he shouldn't be in the auto sales business. He is trying to take advantage of you. Don't let him.
#6925 of 12737 Please help Shipo!
Jul 09, 2003 (10:56 pm)
I know it is too late for a Euro Delivery 530i since the factory closes in August and reopens in September to produce the E60,but was the 1.9 APR and or 4000 dollar incentive available for Munich pick up? 34785-4000=30785 base price?
#6926 of 12737 330iii, corkdsp1
Jul 10, 2003 (3:43 am)
I had the same question. According to my dealer, the $4,000 incentive was never available for ED. It did not come out until after they stopped production and/or were not taking any new build orders. I'm not sure about the 1.9% financing.
A "non-refundable" deposit of any amount cannot be legally binding unless it is a valid "two-party contract". Since the dealer cannot guarantee you an outside delivery date or even the price of the vehicle, there is no way the deposit would be deemed non-refundable in court. However, on the practical side, I agree with Shipo and would find another dealer. The fact that this one would even ask for a $2,500 non-refundable deposit not only shows ignorance of the law, but disregard for integrity and customer relations. I wouldn't give them my business.
Jul 10, 2003 (5:07 am)
I haven't followed the current incentives too much as I am not currently in the market for a car. That said, habitat1 has always proven to be a great source of information, and it seems that he has already answered at least part of your question.
Regarding scheduling an ED for a 530i in E39 trim, I am not sure if the factory has stopped producing the E39 yet (something in the back of my head says that E39 production was stopped in June so BMW could start the re-tooling process). If it is still in production for the remainder of this month, there might still be a chance of you getting a car ready for an August or September ED trip. What you would have to do would be to find a dealer that has a car in the pipeline and not yet built, and then have them arrange to swap that car with the ED pool. Given the timing, even if the E39 is still being produced, my guess is that the chances of setting this up are very small, but it might be worth a try.
Jul 10, 2003 (8:48 am)
enjoyed your extensive post on my question regarding differences b/w 325 vs. 525
i won't be autocrossing even if i were to buy 325 but i feel as though i need to drive 3-series before i move up to 5-series... maybe it's a stupid reason but i don't want to be in my 40's or 50's and wanting to drive 3-series in retrospect... but then again, there seem to be so many good deals on 5 series(2003 that is) that it is really tempting...
well, guess i need to sleep on it and make the decision. : )
#6929 of 12737 shinbone001
Jul 10, 2003 (10:38 am)
Don't worry about tomorrow yet. Get what you want to drive today, today. Wait until tomorrow to decide what you want to drive tomorrow.
Jul 10, 2003 (2:08 pm)
Great quote...who said that Yoda? or was it Yogi Berra...lol. Ya know like..."No one goes to that restaurant anymore because it is too crowded"
to 330iii: I can't remember if Shipo already said this but from I have read the 5er's are also more reliable (see Consumer Reports... fro what it's worth. I am in the same boat as you now, except I am in my late 40's already. When I 30, I had a BMW 528e. I was looking at the 3er's mainly on price issue and they seemed like they would be more fun to drive. I have not driven a 530iA yet, but I can't imagine it will be a let down. I still am concerned about the reliability after warranty as well as the trips to dealer even for the stuff that is covered. Closer dealer will be 20 minutes away, where as my Toyota dealer (which I only visit to get an oil change and a free donut) is 2 miles away from my office! My wife thinks I am absolutely out of mind ("What's your point honey?") getting rid of a reliable 2001 Camry at half the payments of the BMW, with a daily commute of 5 miles with a top speed of 40 mph (vrrooooom).
Is there any other confused old farts out there, or is this a bunch of young wild & crazy guys who still hair to blow in the wind?