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#6483 of 12737 Engines
May 16, 2003 (7:26 pm)
James Taylor's book, Driving Machines--The BMW Story (2000), has a wonderful lengthy appendix that goes over BMW's engines.
For example the M88 24-valve I6, a variant of the M30 big block, was used in the E26 M1 supercar (3453cc) and then a revised version, the M88/3, later used in the E24 M635CSi (3453cc), and then revised again for the 1988 E34 M5 (3535cc), and (yet) again for the 1992 E34 M5 (3795cc).
The M30 big block I6 variants included the:
- 3210cc in the 3.3Li, E24 633CSi, and E23 733i & 732i
- 3295cc in the 3.3L (1974)
- 3430cc in the E28 535i & M535i, E24 635CSi, E23 735i, E32 735i, and E34 535i
- 3453cc in the E12 M535i, E24 635CSi, and E23 735i
The M60 V8 was used from 1992-1996. The 2997cc in the E34 530i and E32 730i. The 3982cc in the E34 540i, E32 740i & 740il, and E31 840i.
The M62 V8 was introduced in 1996. The 3498cc used in the E38 735i and E39 535i. The 4398cc used in the E38 740i and E39 540i.
May 16, 2003 (7:58 pm)
There wasn't a E34 535is, at least not in the U.S.
#6485 of 12737 Let's Talk about BMWNA's Customer Relations!
May 17, 2003 (5:23 am)
I have been working with BMWNA for almost three weeks to validate/activate warranty/maintenance/road assistance on a ED 2003 525i purchased under the military sales program.
This has been a very painful process. I have faxed all the required documentation, but no one can confirm that they have have received the required information and no one (including BMW CR staff) can contact the section that collects this information and validates warranties. This is very strange!
I expect poor customer relations/service in Europe, it is part of the fabric that forms their society, but I did not expect this from BMW's US staff.
To be fair, some of the BMWNA's CR staff have tried to assist, while others provide short, cold, or no responses to phones questions and emails. I have asked someone from CR's management to contact me concerning this issue, but no one has responded.
This is America, we expect, no, demand excellent customer service and relations from companies that provide goods and services. Especially companies that sell $40K plus automobiles.
Please share your poor BMWNA CRs experiences on this board! Maybe, as a collective group, we can influence the process to resolve the Ultimate Driving Machine's substandard CRs problems.
#6486 of 12737 Poor BMWNA CR
May 17, 2003 (6:30 am)
It got a story for you. When I bought my used 98 528i 5sp last October, the guy had to get a release of lien from BMWNA CR. Well, they said it would take about 7-10 days and I said ok. He overnighted the check and BMW claimed that they had gotten it. Well, 10 days later, I still hadn't gotten the release of lien so I called them. They told me that they had sent it out and that it should be at my house in the next two days. Now mind you, this office was in Ohio and I live in Michigan, so it should take no more than two days to get there. I waited 5 more days and nothing. Finally I told the guy I was waiting to register the car that I has just bought that the longer I waited the less of the CPO warranty I had. He said he could fax me a copy if I had a fax machine. I said, why didn't you do that in the first place. They faxed it over, that took about 3 hours. I never ended up getting the one they supposedly mailed.
#6487 of 12737 wabends--congrats
May 17, 2003 (6:32 am)
After a little over three months owning my CPO MYO1 530i, I couldn't agree with you more that it's one sweet ride...congratulations.
#6488 of 12737 Models/Engines
May 17, 2003 (7:58 am)
bmwguru... The list was not broken down by models/engines sold in USA. Many of the ones listed were not sold in USA. Is just interesting to see what all models/engines existed. Is too bad USA is often left out in the cold for many of the most interesting ones. (I didn't even begin to list the various diesel and turbo-diesel engines BMW has used.)
May 17, 2003 (8:22 am)
Riez, I agree that we've missed out on a lot of good stuff. I would have loved an all wheel drive E34 5 series. I think in the near future we will see BMW introduce diesel vehicles in the states. Especially when low sulfer diesel fuel becomes common.
May 17, 2003 (11:37 am)
Are you sure? Maybe the guy I spoke to (President of BMW of Manhattan) has a grey market vehicle. He says he bought the car before he started working for BMW.
May 17, 2003 (2:31 pm)
I spoke with someone with the local BMWCCA that grey market all his BMWs. He lives in Houston and Dortmund. He says it is not that hard. I guess one has to weigh the cost and time. To bring an E46 compact probably would not make much sense but any BMW diesel might be worth it.
I think the EPA and DOT has a lot to do with why we cannot get some of the worlds best cars. I would love to see a Nissan Skyline. The closest that I have been to one is via a brochure that I have. Over the years, BMW has made some interesting cars. I like the E46 M3 CSL. At first, I did not like the upcoming 5er. But it is growing on me, my only beef is the kidney grill and lack of driver centered console. The flat console just takes away from the vehicle. I was looking at E21 brochure the other day and even it had the dash that wraps towards the driver. We can talk about Bangle but I believe he was with BMW during the E46 era.
Any Bimmerphiles, exactly when did Bangle start influencing BMWs?
#6492 of 12737 seviwrig
May 17, 2003 (2:45 pm)
Yes you are correct. I leased one of the very first E46 generation of the 328i imported into the USA, and I remember very distinctly the video that I got with the car showed Chris Bangle discussing the various design attributes of the (then) new car. That said, since that time, his designs have been hit or miss with me.
Oddly enough, when I leased the E46, I thought it was just slightly better looking than the E39 of the time, however, what with the various face lifts of the two cars, I find that I now slightly prefer the look of the latest E39 when compared to the latest E46.
Regarding his "Hit or Miss", I like the E46 and the Z4, while I dislike the E60 and the E65, go figure.