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#2617 of 12737 Need Expert Opinions......First Time BMW Buyers
Mar 04, 2002 (12:29 pm)
We are very close to purchasing a 530i with PP, Upgraded Stereo and Steptronic. Have heard here (post #2379) that BMW has had problems with the life of auto trans in the 1990s. Does anyone know if there have been any problems with steptronic? In Cars.com article on 2001 525, it says that the shifter is licensed from Porsche. And in Nov. 2001 Consumer Reports reviewing 530i it says the steptronic is made by General Motors. Have not test driven the 5-speed manual yet, but will do so this weekend. Both my husband and I drive a stick, but thought we'd like to try the auto this time. Any thoughts??
Also, how has the reliability of BMW been overall? I know it's up there, but not as good as Lexus, Acura?? Any major problems?
And finally, how can I get a subscription to Roundel (is this a BMW mag?)
Thanks to all you BMW Gods of Knowledge...
Shipo...any experience with Prestige or DiFeo BMW? We will be going to Park Ave. this weekend. Unfortunately, don't have the energy to do an ED purchase, but thanks for all the posted info.
#2618 of 12737 Go to the G35 Board; See what coming!
Mar 04, 2002 (12:52 pm)
What a forum they have going in the new G35.
Very anxious to see the Car Mag; Comparisons on them, sure to come! Love these cars. Bob
Mar 04, 2002 (12:57 pm)
Since my wife is not very good with manual, we thought about getting the auto. However, while I have not personally spoke to anyone who actually had a problem with their automatic transmissions, I heard about quite a few people who did have problems. Most everyone ended up with rebuilt or new transmission. On the other hand, I have also heard of people who have well over 100,000 miles on their automatic 5 series with no apparent problems. It may be possible that there just aren't enough E39s (the current 5 series) with high mileage to have a reliable statistic. Whatever the case is, many (including me) prefer the manual over the auto. The transmissions are built by ZF and GM in France, but these are not the same boxes that go in our Chevys and Pontiacs.
The reliability seems to be above average, but it is not Lexus nor Acura. Personally I have had more problems with my Integra than I would have liked. It seems most of the problems are the little things that are more annoying than serious. I do expect it to cost more than the average import sedans, however and budgeted accordingly.
As for Roundel, it is a BMW CCA magazine and you can sign up at their web site, www.bmwcca.org. The membership also entitles you to discounts on BMW parts from participating dealers. If you have been a member for more than a year, you can also receive cash rebate of $1,000 on 5 series.
Mar 04, 2002 (1:51 pm)
most everyone on this board will tell you that if you can both drive stick, then get the stick, you'll be glad you did.
#2621 of 12737 The Stick
Mar 04, 2002 (1:56 pm)
I agree, I thought I was sold on the automatic and thought Steptronic was cool, but not after driving the stick! Awesome response. Now I just need to find 5-7 K more to jump from the 528 to 530!! And I also jumped to the Sport Package once I drove it!
Mar 04, 2002 (2:16 pm)
Help...I am about to get myself into a 540i w/ Sport Pkg, Nav, Cold Weather and Prem Sound. MSRP is $60,320 (incl gas guzzler tax). I am told they will take $1200 off sticker, and with a 59% residual and a MF of .0021 puts me at $899 (36 mos/45Kmi) inc tax. I am reading about dealers who will do $1500 from Invoice. Is the 540 less negotiable? I am also interested in the "paydown" of the MF by using multiple security deposits, but conventional wisdom says to use that money and invest it where your return over 3 years would be greater than the savings of a couple of points on interest charges...Any thoughts
Mar 04, 2002 (3:09 pm)
As it turns out, I do have experience with Prestige, and I like them very much. My current 1999 328i was leased from them and that sales process was very pleasant. The service provided by them has been quite satisfactory as well, even though that has only amounted to the 15K and the 30K services calls.
So why am I not leasing my 530i from them? Quite simply, my new salesman at Prestige seemed unwilling to deal, he presented me with a price for the car optioned as I requested at essentially ED MSRP. When I questioned him (telling him the type of prices that I have seen on the internet), he simply told me that there was no way he could even get close. Admittedly, I never gave him a "$1,500 over ED invoice, take it or leave it offer" (and I feel a little guilty about that), however, I did give him the opportunity to swing the bat before I went elsewhere.
Since I do not like playing games, I decided that the first local dealer that I called that accepted my offer would get my business. The first dealership I called was Park Avenue, they accepted, and the rest is history.
#2624 of 12737 Good deal or not??
Mar 04, 2002 (4:12 pm)
Got a deal on the table for a 530 w/ auto, PP, CW, lumbar, Xenon
Invoice : 42,285
Dealer offers: 44,285
I counter w/ 43, 785
after various discussions here's where I am:
my last offer: 44,185 (but this now includes add'n year maint and MACO)
Their counter was 44,485 (including add'n year maint and MACO)
my guess is they wont' move more. Question, should I take or not? My counter could be
44,485 (includes add'n year maint, 2 free future oil changes, BMW pedal car (for kid!!) Anything else I could ask for?
#2625 of 12737 to multiplechoice
Mar 04, 2002 (4:56 pm)
> Is there a reason for the long period till
> anticipated delivery of your ED530i?
My choice: it's the first Monday after school is out. It could be done in 8-10 weeks if you take the first available date. There does not seem to be too much of a backlog on ED.
#2626 of 12737 multiplechoice
Mar 04, 2002 (6:36 pm)
I purchased my 530 at Pacific BMW in Glendale. Ask for Keith Kruser. Other dealer that was very close to my price was Long Beach BMW. Good luck. Let me know what you get quoted and what options you want.