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FIrst Oil Change by wolfer2
Mar 05, 2008 (11:20 am)
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Any collective thoughts on when to change the oil for the first time in a 2008 535xi? I know the BMW maintenance program is 15,000 miles, but that just seems to fly in the face of what I have been taught all my life. I bought, rather than leased the vehicle, so I want to do it right. I am at 6000 miles and was thinking about doing it at 7,500. I suppose this would not be covered by the 4 year maintenance plan.
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Re: FIrst Oil Change [wolfer2] by shipo
Mar 05, 2008 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: wolfer2 (Mar 05, 2008 11:20 am)

As a general rule I think that the standard BMW OCI target of 15,000 miles is a bit long, that said, UOAs on many cars over the last ten years (since they went to the 15,000 mile OCI) have shown that it's pretty close, assuming that you use the proper oil and filter). That said, the twin-turbo I6 engine in your car has shown (once again via UOAs) that it is EXTREMELY hard on its oil, and that many cars that have been drive by fairly spirited drivers are fully exhausting the oil by as little as 5,000 miles. Said another way, assuming you only occasionally beat on your car, a 7,500 mile oil change sounds very much in order.
 
If you plan on keeping your car for any length of time you might want to consider sending a sample of the drained out oil off to http://www.blackstone-labs.com/ to have it analyzed. Then you'll know for sure whether you still had some miles left in the oil or whether it was already a goner.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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535i transmission problem/battery drain by professor6
Mar 05, 2008 (1:18 pm)
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I have a 535i (purchased new) that has been driven 6,000 miles. Approximately 25% of the time, it is difficult to get the transmission from park to drive without "jiggling" the stick. I don't know if the problem is getting worse, but this was not an issue when new.
 
While I am whining, my wife tells me that, when starting the vehicle, she occasionally sees an icon showing the car on a service rack with an indication that the battery is low. I might understand that much drain after sitting for several days, but the car is driven at least five times/week.
 
Anyone having the same or similar problems? Any input before taking the car to the dealer will be appreciated.
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Re: FIrst Oil Change [wolfer2] by tx_buzzard
Mar 06, 2008 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: wolfer2 (Mar 05, 2008 11:20 am)

The time to change your oil is actualy calculated on the wat you drive your vehicle. Check the iDrive from time to time and you may notice the intervals will change accordingly. Regarding the first oil change... I did mine at 2,600. Like you, it just seems odd to go any longer. Just look at it as insurance. The single most important thing you can do to ensure a problem free experience is to change the oil on a regular basis. I plan on changing my oil between BMW intervals myself, that way the clock will not be reset.
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Re: Picked up an 08 535i [troysb] by anon3
Mar 08, 2008 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: troysb (Mar 02, 2008 6:48 pm)

I did the same thing when I ordered my most recent BMW... paid for the heated seats and skipped the cold weather package because I HATE the headlight washer that sprays fluid all over a clean vehicle if you're not careful. The headlight washer is logical (if the windshield is dirty, the headlights will be too), but I can live without it and I don't need to shower the entire vehicle just to wipe a bug off the windshield.
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Re: Picked up an 08 535i [troysb] by xg300
Mar 12, 2008 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: troysb (Mar 02, 2008 6:48 pm)

Hey troysb hit me up with what you had to do for this issue. I had the same problem with my 08 528i and the service department counld not find any problem after a week and two days in their hands. I don't want this to become a bigger problem later with only 2100 mls on the clock.
 
Rock
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550 vs 535 in Western PA by orion53
Mar 14, 2008 (8:33 pm)
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I'd appreciate comments re BMW owners experience re sport packages on driving the roads in Western PA.
 
Seriously considering either a 550i (w/sports package, 19" low profile tires) or a 535xi. Had the opportunity of brief, back-to-back test drives of both (actually the 535i) in TX ... road surface better there ... but not the windy/curvy backroads here. Both plenty fast ... but preferred the "feel" of the 550i. If the 550i, would plan to use only as a 3 season car. Some questions.
 
1. Any sense when the new 5 series will emerge this year ... and anticipated differences from 2008 models? Am I correct, I understand the 5s will be redesigned, however, major change will be for models released in 2009 (not 2008). Also, any insight re potential price increase (above 2008 models)? Or, if build slots are still available (I'd plan to customize) ... would some advise buying now?
 
2. Might I find the ride of a 550i sport too harsh (I realize this is a subjective question). I'd like to hear from 550i owners ... and/or those who decided against and chose either a 550i non-sport or 535 for such reasons.
 
3. I read of some owners (e.g., in Manhattan) regretting decision to purchase with low profile tires/rims ... because of frequency of flats/damaged rims. Related to #2, is there much of a difference in "ride" and less potential damage when comparing 18" to 19" wheels.
 
4. Again, a subjective question ... opinions/experience with Active Steering. My inclination is to not get Active Steering.
 
5. Assuming similar driving styles for 550i (360 hp) vs 535 (twin-turbo 330 hp) ... how much potential difference in MPG.
 
6. Finally, any strong +/- experiences with dealers in the Pittsburgh area ... both during the sale ... and routine service afterwards.
 
Thank you!
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Re: 550 vs 535 in Western PA [orion53] by tayl0rd
Mar 18, 2008 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: orion53 (Mar 14, 2008 8:33 pm)

1. September/October
2. Depends on what you like. What are you driving now?
3. Attributed more to inattentive drivers than the wheels/tires. Common sense says steer around or take it easy over potholes.
4. Those that have it, love it. Those that don't have it deride it. Who're you gonna listen to?
5. Easy driving? Better in 535i. "Aggressive" driving? Better in the 550i since you don't have to push it has hard to get the same results.
6. N/A
 
I have an '08 550i Sport.
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Re: 550 vs 535 in Western PA [orion53] by anon3
Mar 19, 2008 (10:07 am)
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Replying to: orion53 (Mar 14, 2008 8:33 pm)

Keep in mind that the five series had its mid-life refresh in the 2008 model year, which is when most major changes occur. The "new" five series will be a 2011 model. I would not expect any significant changes in the 2009 model, just tweaking of options and probably a price increase. The next model year vehicles are usually available for order in August time frame.
 
My advice is to avoid active steering if you like to drive a BMW the way a BMW can be driven. I had active steering on a six series and hated it. BMW is known for its near perfect steering feel and precision. Active steering only diminishes classic BMW steering by inserting computers and mechanical hardware between you and the road. Not an improvement. Not worth the money. Bad idea on the part of BMW.
 
Regarding the sport package. I can tell you from personal experience that a five series without a sport suspension and wheels definitely involves a trade off. (Note that not all five series sport packages include sport suspension and wheels.) Without a sport suspension, it cruises nicely on the highway in a straight line and increases your comfort while driving over broken pavement. But... if you are a BMW enthusiast and you like "spirited" driving, the standard suspension and wheel package is a disappointment and will not live up to the engine's performance potential. Too much lean in corners and a little too much bounce over undulating pavement. The ride is not bouncy by any means, but you do give up a significant degree of handling control in corners and on twisty roads. So it depends on how you like to drive and how much value you place on comfort vs fun to drive. (If someone just wants to drive in cushioned comfort in a straight line, then save some money and buy an Acura or Lexus because the advantages of a BMW will be lost on them.)
 
I currently have a 535xi as an environmental "down grade" from my previous V8 BMWs. After three months of mixed driving, I average 21 mpg. Pure highway driving will yield about 26 mpg.
 
I will also say that the twin turbo drive train combined with the new automatic transmission is extremely smooth and very easy to get used to. The turbo six's flat torque curve and the smoothness of the drive train make it "deceptively quick". You get effortless, drama-free acceleration without the need for frequent down shifts and holding the engine at high RPM as you have to do in a V8 to maintain peak power. So you're not as "aware" of the engine and transmission working. At first if feels less sporty and like you're getting less performance than a V8. Then you realize that it's just performing without a lot of fuss.
 
The 0 - 60 time difference between the 550i and the 535xi is only around 2/10 of a second, depending on who did the test (Car and Driver, for example, 5.2 seconds vs 5.4 seconds 0 - 60). I think the 550i "feels" more fun to drive. But the 535i would win on price and on fuel economy with no significant trade off in performance in normal day to day driving where most people are likely to use it.
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2009 BMWs to receive Diesels? by gscottnelson1
Mar 19, 2008 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: anon3 (Mar 19, 2008 10:07 am)

I have heard, but not confirmed that the 530d might be making it's way to the states this fall - but not sure? Any word?
 
Scott

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