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#12320 of 12737 Re: cross post [jeqq] by og_oggilby

Dec 29, 2007 (7:55 am)

Replying to: jeqq (Dec 28, 2007 8:20 am)
You are reading too much into those statistics. Those tests are done in a controlled environment with a controlled setup (31 mph, etc.). Life is random. If an SUV hits you from the side going... say 45 mph, you are probably going to be in trouble no matter what car you are driving.
  
Since 9,200 people in passenger vehicles were killed in side impacts in 2005 and 18,807 people died from accidental falls in 2004 - I guess you shouldn't stand up and walk around, since the odds are better that you might fall and die than by getting killed in a side impact collision. Also, 59,664 died from Influenza/Pneumonia - you might want to wear a mask if you are brave enough to stand up and walk around.
 
BTW, I am not making fun of you. I am trying to show that buying or not buying a car that you like because of a so-so grade on one specific test should not influence your decision that much. The odds of you being in a side impact collision with an SUV going 31 mph while you are stopped in a BMW (or any car) are not that high.

#12321 of 12737 Re: Frontal + lateral crash [jlbl] by og_oggilby

Dec 29, 2007 (8:00 am)

Replying to: jlbl (Dec 29, 2007 5:25 am)
Wow, glad to hear that you and your family are OK Jose.

#12322 of 12737 Re: Frontal + lateral crash [jlbl] by cmr530i

Dec 29, 2007 (12:46 pm)

Replying to: jlbl (Dec 29, 2007 5:25 am)
It is so great to hear that you and your family are healthy after your experience. I was wondering what brand of tire was on your car and how many miles were on the one that blew.

#12323 of 12737 Accident by jlbl

Dec 29, 2007 (1:11 pm)

Oggilby, Cmr530i,
 
I thank you for your empathy.
 
I had Pirelli P7 BMW Star (four seasons) tires; all four tires were put on the car at the same time, 17,600 miles ago. Flanks apparently were in good shape and drawings deep enough—I had checked it before journeying. Nevertheless, the highway patrol said that the tire blew because of its rolling over a sharp piece of debris. Although I feel I remember I had seen some piece of black something on the pavement an instant before the accident, I cannot honestly say whether this was real or I have dreamed of it.
 
Regards,
Jose

#12324 of 12737 Re: Accident [jlbl] by pat

Dec 29, 2007 (6:10 pm)

Replying to: jlbl (Dec 29, 2007 1:11 pm)
I replied to you in the other discussion, but let me just repeat how glad I am that you and your family suffered no injuries.

#12325 of 12737 Jose by nyccarguy

Dec 29, 2007 (9:27 pm)

Glad to hear you and your family are OK! Happy New Year!

#12326 of 12737 400,000 americans died from smoking cigarettes by jeqq

Dec 29, 2007 (10:04 pm)

Replying to: og_oggilby (Dec 29, 2007 7:55 am)
last year. An estimated 3,000 died from second hand smoke. So do you smoke or hang out in a smoke filled bar? I would not. Most smoker say the same dribble you said above. We are all going to eventually die so why quite smoking.
 
You did not give the full statistics. "Side impacts were still killing about 9,800 people and injure more than a million every year". So what's a mere million injuries. What about our kids that sit in the rear of our cars?
 
Did you pay attention to the video? These were very serious injuries to the chest, internal organs and pelvic bones.
 
Another statistic "While side-impact collisions cause about 25 percent of all injuries to car occupants, they cause more than 35 percent of serious and fatal injuries. And more than half of the serious and fatal injuries in side-impact collisions are to the head." Yes, BMW did protect your head but not the rest of your body.
 
Thank god, Jose and his family are okay. Had it been a T- bone collision unfortunately the outcome may not have been the same.
 
Basically, I'm just looking to stack the odds in favor of my wife and kid who sit in the rear "sides" of my car.
 
So my friend, I believe you are wrong or we agree that we disagree.

#12327 of 12737 Re: crash owrthiness of 5 series [bdkinnh] by jeqq

Dec 29, 2007 (10:18 pm)

Replying to: bdkinnh (Dec 28, 2007 1:23 pm)
I do not think it was a press event. The guy I know test drives for one of the mags.
 
BTW, the car calling BMW Assist is a great idea.

#12328 of 12737 Re: 400,000 americans died from smoking cigarettes [jeqq] by jlbl

Dec 30, 2007 (2:14 am)

Replying to: jeqq (Dec 29, 2007 10:04 pm)
I have attentively watched the video on lateral impact against the 5 Series car. One thing I find it was different in that car regarding mine is that in my 2004 530d there were two airbags lateral to each front seat: one for the head and the other for the body. The latter coming out from the door panel, ripping off the upholstery. I cannot find such a lateral air bag for the body in the video. Each rear seat only had one (head) lateral airbag in my car, however.
 
On the other hand, I believe my lateral collisions were not so brutal as that one depicted in the video. Neither were they so perpendicular to the flank car. My car, even if spinning horizontally on the asphalt, kept always some amount of forward motion.
 
…
 
Pat, Nyccarguy, Jegg, I thank you for your gladness. Sure enough, my family and I will happily celebrate this next New Year. I wish as well a happy New Year to everyone in this forum.
 
Jose

#12329 of 12737 Re: 400,000 americans died from smoking cigarettes [jeqq] by og_oggilby

Dec 30, 2007 (8:26 am)

Replying to: jeqq (Dec 29, 2007 10:04 pm)
My friend, I think you are missing my point. While there is nothing wrong with trying to stack the odds in your favor, you are still putting to much weight into a single statistic. Some cars handle better than others in adverse situations, allowing you to avoid (or lessen the impact of) accidents. As far as I know, there is no NHTSA statistic that shows that. Some people are better drivers than others and are aware of their surroundings, such as a dangerous intersection that they drive through on a regular basis, so they slow down slightly and glance in both directions as they approach the intersection. Some people talk on their cellphones, pay no attention to other drivers or the situation, and trust that nothing is going to hit them. Which type is more likely to get T-Boned? Where is the statistic for it?
 
"Had it been a T- bone collision unfortunately the outcome may not have been the same". How often do you think people get T-boned cruising on a two-lane highway at 75 miles per hour?
 
Yes, thank god Jose and his family are fine. I would imagine that Jose is pretty happy he and his family were in his BMW. If they were in a lesser car, the results of the accident could have been tragic. Where is the statistic for that?

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