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Re: Winter tire advice request [bdkinnh] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 03, 2007 (6:47 am)
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Replying to: bdkinnh (Oct 02, 2007 6:26 pm)

I would be very surprised if 16" wheels would fit over the brakes on a new 535...
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Re: Winter tire advice request [kyfdx] by shipo
Oct 03, 2007 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 03, 2007 6:47 am)

TireRack is currently carrying two models of 16x7.0" wheels and two models of 16x7.5" wheels that fit the 535i.
 
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Shipo
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Re: Winter tire advice request [shipo] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 03, 2007 (7:03 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Oct 03, 2007 6:55 am)

Okay.. I'm surprised..
 
That said, he already has a set of winter tires in the stock 535 size.. I'd just get wheels for them, and be done with it... Unless the 16" tires are appreciably narrower, it isn't going to make much difference, anyway..
 
I'd double check the 16" thing with a phone call.. The stock size on the 535 is 225/50-17.. That is for the base model, not sport. Not sure I'd want to downgrade from that. Even the 528i comes with 17" standard.
 
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kyfdx
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Re: Winter tire advice request [kyfdx] by shipo
Oct 03, 2007 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 03, 2007 7:03 am)

Nope, all E60 cars can be fitted with 16" wheels (per TireRack), SP or not, I6 or V8, it makes no matter. That said, the situation is very much like that of my old E39, while there were 16" wheels that would fit, they were very few and far between.
 
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Shipo
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Re: Winter tire advice request [shipo] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 03, 2007 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Oct 03, 2007 7:06 am)

Remember the good old days, when 14" wheels were an upgrade?
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Re: Winter tire advice request [kyfdx] by shipo
Oct 03, 2007 (7:10 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 03, 2007 7:08 am)

Yeah, I was so proud the first time I bought a car with 15" wheels.
 
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Shipo
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Re: Winter tire advice request [kyfdx] by bdkinnh
Oct 03, 2007 (7:54 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 03, 2007 7:03 am)

>"That said, he already has a set of winter tires in the stock 535 size.. I'd just get wheels for them, and be done with it."
 
I'm trying to find out how much better the traction would be between 16 and 17.. probably tough to measure. Since I already have the 17s it makes sense to go with those, but since I'll have the car for many years I don't want to have worse traction every year just to save a few bucks on the tires this year.
 
>"I'd double check the 16" thing with a phone call.."
 
BMW lists 16 inch tires on the accessory page for the 2008 535i (star spoke 115), but you're right - better safe than sorry.
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Re: Winter tire advice request [bdkinnh] by shipo
Oct 03, 2007 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: bdkinnh (Oct 03, 2007 7:54 am)

"I'm trying to find out how much better the traction would be between 16 and 17.. probably tough to measure."
 
Assuming the same section width (i.e. 225), probably impossible to measure. I've never seen any compelling evidence that proves that a winter tire of any given width and diameter will perform better if the wheel is smaller.
 
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Shipo
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Re: Winter tire advice request [shipo] by bdkinnh
Oct 04, 2007 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Oct 03, 2007 1:03 pm)

My mistake - I was confusing the aspect ratio with the tire width.
 
So, given that the 16 and 17 have the same width (therefore the same traction as well), would there be any major reason to go with the 16 other than cost?
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Re: Winter tire advice request [bdkinnh] by kyfdx HOST
Oct 04, 2007 (8:56 am)
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Replying to: bdkinnh (Oct 04, 2007 8:50 am)

Assuming the 16" tires are sized properly, they'll be the same overall height... With 1" less wheel, the sidewall will be 0.5" taller than the corresponding 17" tire.
 
If you have bad potholes, or your spouse is maybe not as careful as you would like, then you do have a small amount of increased protection from pothole damage.
 
But, traction/winter handling improvements would probably be too small to calculate.
 
If you stick with 17" wheels, you'll have a lot more choices... Personally, I like my car to look just as good in the winter as the rest of the year, which is why I don't like to downsize... (but, that's just me).
 
regards,
kyfdx
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EDIT: Some people think that extra 1/2" of sidewall lets the tire flex more, and find better tracton in deep snow.. Not sure that makes sense to me, but there you have it.

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