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Re: 535x with sports suspension package [andys120] by shipo
Jul 27, 2007 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: andys120 (Jul 27, 2007 11:59 am)

Ahhh, I thought you had All-Season rubber there (maybe I didn't fully read what you wrote). Yup, the Eagle F1s are pretty much worthless in even a quarter of an inch of snow (as are most performance tires).
 
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Shipo
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Re: 535x with sports suspension package [shipo] by andys120
Jul 27, 2007 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Jul 27, 2007 12:09 pm)

Well see that's the thing, if you want to wear sticky tires for three seasons it makes no sense to put All Seasons on for ONE season, I concluded you might as well go with dedicated snows since today's snows don't have the noise and piss-poor dry cornering of old fashioned bias ply snow tires.
 
Between modern tire design, traction control and generally good balance most people would be amazed how good Bimmers can be in snow.
 
PS- one of the biggest drawbacks to Quattro AWD was that it eats tires. Those F1s were shot after about 15,000 miles!
 
I wonder if BMW's X-Drive is any better in that respect? I don't know if E60 Fivers have as good a weight dist. as my
E39 (53%F/47%R IIRC).
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Re: 535x with sports suspension package [andys120] by shipo
Jul 27, 2007 (1:34 pm)
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Replying to: andys120 (Jul 27, 2007 12:25 pm)

"Well see that's the thing, if you want to wear sticky tires for three seasons it makes no sense to put All Seasons on for ONE season, I concluded you might as well go with dedicated snows since today's snows don't have the noise and piss-poor dry cornering of old fashioned bias ply snow tires."
 
The only real problem with modern winter tires for non winter driving is heat. It seems that the tires with the best bite in the snow and on ice also have the worst ability to withstand heat. Other than that, the Michelin winter tires that I had on my 530i were no slouch in the ride and handling department.
 
Between modern tire design, traction control and generally good balance most people would be amazed how good Bimmers can be in snow.
 
I hear that, our first winter up here in New Hampshire I managed to break my right leg and partially tear the foot off. As such I wasn't able to drive a stick, so, with a tear in my eye, I swapped the keys to my 5er with my wife. Her minivan allowed me to sling the cast over into the front passenger foot well and drive left footed. She on the other hand had to commute to and from work (just over sixty miles per day) during a winter that featured nearly ten feet of snow. The fact that she was born and raised in California and had very little experience driving in the snow (NONE in a RWD car) gave me pause. She never missed a beat.
 
The balance of my E39 530i 5-Speed was something like 50.3/49.7 (IIRC), which is a spot on match for the new 528i Steptronic (the 6-Speed is reversed at 49.7/50.3). The 535i suffers a bit coming in at 51.2/48.8 (Stick) and 51.8/48.2 (Step). What's interesting is that usually the V8 models have the heaviest nose, however, in the case of the current E90, the percentages split the numbers of the 535i coming in at 51.4/48.6 (Stick) and 51.7/48.3 (Step). Go figure.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: 535x with sports suspension package [shipo] by jb_shin
Jul 28, 2007 (8:15 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jul 27, 2007 12:09 pm)

Tell me about it, on a very gentle incline that would have hard time rolling a ball downhill, my M5 with summer Dunlops could barely move itself when I was caught in snowfall about 2 minutes from the house.
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Re: 535x with sports suspension package [jb_shin] by shipo
Jul 28, 2007 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: jb_shin (Jul 28, 2007 8:15 am)

Hehe, yup. Try telling that to some folks who believe that AWD equipped cars shod with summer rubber can conquer all.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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BMW getting softer? Infinity getting edgier? by richardga73
Jul 29, 2007 (1:44 pm)
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In a video on autospies an engineer from Infinity claimed that the new Infinity coupe was "edgier" than the 3 and that BMW had gotten "softer" over the years. Any truth to this, has BMW (I believe they were talking about the sports) in an attempt to appeal to more buyers made their cars more luxurious? I had a 2003 3sport which I thought was rough even though the road racers at Car and Driver(who would be happiest with go-carts)thought it was "compliant". Do you guys think the 3 and 5 sports are more luxurious than the previous models or are they just as "sporty"
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5-sport by richardga73
Aug 10, 2007 (6:46 pm)
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Anyone out there have a 5 sport? A recent one (2004-2008)? I am about to look for a new 5 and wondered how much difference in the ride is there between the sport and the non-sport.Thanks in advance.
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New 535 has arrived ! by carnaught
Aug 11, 2007 (12:21 pm)
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Well, thus far, I've had my 535 for two days and have driven over 120 miles. My impression in short is: no disappointment!
 
The fit and finish are perfect (at least so far I have not found even one defect; give me time though.) Driving and comparing it to my '06 3 series, I have a welcome familarity, yet a more refined and luxury sensation. Driving it last night to dinner, I felt as if I had the luxury impression of a Lexus, yet a distinct sporting spirited feeling. And, that's what I wanted. The idrive, which btw, I never had a problem with, is another generation which means improved. For example, going from one given function to another, there are frequenly saved steps noted in comparing it with my '06 3 series. I note small things, the wheel is slightly padded and spins 360 degrees without the resistance as in the older one. This makes scrolling your cell phone book or other menu, much easier. The seats are among the MOST comfortable in any of the many cars that I've owned and it is easy to find the right configurations of seat, steering wheel and mirrors to satisfy one greatly. The lumbar support augments your feeling of comfort, my wife commenting that it aborted her muscular related backache. That said, if I had to order again, I would have ordered the upgraded comfort seats which are even better, more plush and great looking. (These are the same seats as on the sport package as a stand alone option.)
 
If I didn't emphasize it, this car is responsive, yet silky smooth in its execution. The electronic shift slushbox (my apologies to the purists) works great. It takes a BRIEF getting used to. When you reach your destination and stop, you push the "park" button and that's it, you exit the car. I must say that from the Logic 7 HK stereo to the comfort access and the Nav., everything has worked brilliantly so far with surprisingly good ergonomics, sometimes quirky in German cars.
 
Oh, and the worst gas mileage thus far has been 24mpg in mostly city driving.
 
That's it for now. More to follow.
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Re: New 535 has arrived ! [carnaught] by wolfer2
Aug 11, 2007 (2:50 pm)
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Replying to: carnaught (Aug 11, 2007 12:21 pm)

Glad to here from you. Mine is due in a week. Can't wait. I was especially interested in your comments on the seats. I also opted to not get the comfort seats and have been wondering if it was a mistake given what everybody says about them. Sounds like the regular seats will be sufficient. Enjoy and keep us posted (I have to live vicariously for now).
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Re: New 535 has arrived ! [wolfer2] by carnaught
Aug 11, 2007 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: wolfer2 (Aug 11, 2007 2:50 pm)

Thanks. Please do the same and share your comments. BTW, what color combination and options did you get?
 
Compared to my first drive (which wasn't bad), I actually appreciate it more each time I drive it. The interior tweaks they did for '08 render the cabin more luxurious and more efficient.
 
You're really got a treat to look forward to. I know you'll love it.

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