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Replying to: kcx (Jul 27, 2007 9:26 am) No, have not resolved that yet. I washed the car once myself, but don't always have the time or energy for that. I've taken it to some self-service car washes, where you drive the car in and sit there versus a system that pulls the car through. But the self-service washes don't do as good a job. I had gotten spoiled by the full service car wash that gets the wheels really clean, dries the car thoroughly, and perhaps most appreciated, they clean the inside of the car, especially the inside window surfaces. I'm jealous every time my wife takes her X3 to the full service wash! I've started looking for a good detailer in my area, and maybe I'll discover something through that chain. Thanks Bruce |
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I am wondering if an Xi has an advantage in traction on wet roads, especially for the TT engine? One plausible explanation for BMW citing a lower 0 - 60 time for the AWD version of the TT engine is better traction with all that power, and wet roads would exacerbate traction issues. I've also seen posts by one of the moderators that races a Suburu saying AWD gives him an advantage on wet roads. Thanks Bruce
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Replying to: bruceomega (Jul 27, 2007 10:48 am) That's a pretty fair bet that a 535xi will suck the doors off a 535i (SP or not) in the wet. That said, I don't usually find myself needing that kind of acceleration on wet roads, it can get you into trouble real quick.  Best Regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: shipo (Jul 27, 2007 6:24 am) Actually I tried backing up the road, it had four to six inches of heavy wet snow on it but it's a long steep grade and the A4 was shod with Summer performance tires (Goodyear Eagle F1s) so it was just not gonna happen. Don't get me wrong A4 Quattros are awesome in snow IF they are properly shod. BMWs if properly shod will do just fine due to their inherent balance, but you already knew that. 
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Replying to: andys120 (Jul 27, 2007 11:59 am) Best Regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: shipo (Jul 27, 2007 12:09 pm) Between modern tire design, traction control and generally good balance most people would be amazed how good Bimmers can be in snow. PS- one of the biggest drawbacks to Quattro AWD was that it eats tires. Those F1s were shot after about 15,000 miles! I wonder if BMW's X-Drive is any better in that respect? I don't know if E60 Fivers have as good a weight dist. as my E39 (53%F/47%R IIRC).
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Replying to: andys120 (Jul 27, 2007 12:25 pm) The only real problem with modern winter tires for non winter driving is heat. It seems that the tires with the best bite in the snow and on ice also have the worst ability to withstand heat. Other than that, the Michelin winter tires that I had on my 530i were no slouch in the ride and handling department. Between modern tire design, traction control and generally good balance most people would be amazed how good Bimmers can be in snow. I hear that, our first winter up here in New Hampshire I managed to break my right leg and partially tear the foot off. As such I wasn't able to drive a stick, so, with a tear in my eye, I swapped the keys to my 5er with my wife. Her minivan allowed me to sling the cast over into the front passenger foot well and drive left footed. She on the other hand had to commute to and from work (just over sixty miles per day) during a winter that featured nearly ten feet of snow. The fact that she was born and raised in California and had very little experience driving in the snow (NONE in a RWD car) gave me pause. She never missed a beat. The balance of my E39 530i 5-Speed was something like 50.3/49.7 (IIRC), which is a spot on match for the new 528i Steptronic (the 6-Speed is reversed at 49.7/50.3). The 535i suffers a bit coming in at 51.2/48.8 (Stick) and 51.8/48.2 (Step). What's interesting is that usually the V8 models have the heaviest nose, however, in the case of the current E90, the percentages split the numbers of the 535i coming in at 51.4/48.6 (Stick) and 51.7/48.3 (Step). Go figure. Best Regards, Shipo |
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Replying to: shipo (Jul 27, 2007 12:09 pm)
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Replying to: jb_shin (Jul 28, 2007 8:15 am) Best Regards, Shipo |
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| In a video on autospies an engineer from Infinity claimed that the new Infinity coupe was "edgier" than the 3 and that BMW had gotten "softer" over the years. Any truth to this, has BMW (I believe they were talking about the sports) in an attempt to appeal to more buyers made their cars more luxurious? I had a 2003 3sport which I thought was rough even though the road racers at Car and Driver(who would be happiest with go-carts)thought it was "compliant". Do you guys think the 3 and 5 sports are more luxurious than the previous models or are they just as "sporty" | |
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