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535x with sports suspension package by aussiem8
Jul 26, 2007 (8:44 am)
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I am currently leasing an Audi A4 that ends in a year. I am very interested in replacing it with a 535xi (which would be my first ever BMW), but would like to have the sports handling package that comes on the 535i. Does anyone know why BMW doesn't offer the sports suspension on its AWD variants?? This is obviously not an issue with Audi's since all sports variants come with quattro. Any insights would be appreciated.
 
Cheers
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Re: 535x with sports suspension package [aussiem8] by shipo
Jul 26, 2007 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: aussiem8 (Jul 26, 2007 8:44 am)

This has been hashed about a bit in the past and I don't believe that we've ever come up with a definitive reason. That said, until shown otherwise, it is my belief that it is a ride height issue. BMWs Sport Suspensions lower the car somewhere around an inch below the ride height of an otherwise identical "xi" model (which rides a tad higher than even a RWD non-SP car).
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: 535x with sports suspension package [shipo] by bruceomega
Jul 26, 2007 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Jul 26, 2007 10:22 am)

Shipo,
 
I've seen several people postulate that the tuning of the suspensions in the Xi models, both 3 and 5 series, is somewhere between the non-sport and sport suspensions of the equivalent RWD versions. Do you have any insight into this?
 
Thanks
Bruce
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Re: 535x with sports suspension package [bruceomega] by shipo
Jul 26, 2007 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: bruceomega (Jul 26, 2007 1:35 pm)

Hmmm, I kind of would have ranked them in order of dry road capabilities as:
 
1) RWD-SP
2) AWD-Optional wheels and tires
3) RWD-nonSP (all-season tires)
4) AWD-Standard tires
 
Can't say I have any scientific evidence to back that up, just kind of a seat of the pants guess.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: 535x with sports suspension package [shipo] by richardga73
Jul 26, 2007 (6:01 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Jul 26, 2007 2:24 pm)

Is there any reason for a person to get an xi unless there is snow and ice? Audi seems to think so however I have not found a comparison anywhere that although Audi makes a better than average car, weight seemed to always be a major complaint.I personally like a car to be as light as possible. I hate the current trend as cars inch there way toward and past 4000 lbs. It seems to me that an average car that is light is more fun to drive than a deluxe approaching 2 tons.
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Re: 535x with sports suspension package [richardga73] by dhanley
Jul 26, 2007 (7:34 pm)
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Replying to: richardga73 (Jul 26, 2007 6:01 pm)

"Is there any reason for a person to get an xi unless there is snow and ice?"
 
I'd go beyond that; IMO, you're better off with RWD unless you need to climb icy/snowy hills, ESPECIALLY since you are concerned with weight!
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Re: 535x with sports suspension package [dhanley] by andys120
Jul 27, 2007 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: dhanley (Jul 26, 2007 7:34 pm)

you're better off with RWD unless you need to climb icy/snowy hills
 
I swapped an A4 Avant Quattro for a BMW 528i, one of the reasons I went to RWD is that I found out the hard way that
I could not climb the steep, snow-covered hill to my home with AWD unless I put on dedicated snows.
 
I decided if I was going to have to do a seasonal changeover anyway I might as well enjoy the benefits of lighter weight and much less understeer afforded by BMW's beautifully sorted RWD chassis.
 
Don't get me wrong AWD cars are a blast to drive in winter
and I might yet buy another but there's nothing like a nice RWD with no power corrupting the steering the rest of the year.
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Re: 535x with sports suspension package [andys120] by shipo
Jul 27, 2007 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: andys120 (Jul 27, 2007 6:10 am)

I swapped an A4 Avant Quattro for a BMW 528i, one of the reasons I went to RWD is that I found out the hard way that I could not climb the steep, snow-covered hill to my home with AWD unless I put on dedicated snows.
 
Yeah, I found out the same thing back in the 1980s. Turns out that given the nose heavy bias of the Audi, if your would have turned the car around and backed your way up the driveway, you probably would have gotten up without winter treads. Of course it's all water under the dam at this point. Enjoy your 528i.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Bruce, Car Wash Issue with xDrive Resolved? by kcx
Jul 27, 2007 (9:26 am)
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Bruce,
 
I wonder if you resolved the car wash issue you brought up earlier
 
I am still waiting for my 528xi which was built on the 16th and got on the ship on the 18th
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Re: Bruce, Car Wash Issue with xDrive Resolved? [kcx] by bruceomega
Jul 27, 2007 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: kcx (Jul 27, 2007 9:26 am)

kcx,
 
No, have not resolved that yet.
 
I washed the car once myself, but don't always have the time or energy for that.
 
I've taken it to some self-service car washes, where you drive the car in and sit there versus a system that pulls the car through. But the self-service washes don't do as good a job.
 
I had gotten spoiled by the full service car wash that gets the wheels really clean, dries the car thoroughly, and perhaps most appreciated, they clean the inside of the car, especially the inside window surfaces. I'm jealous every time my wife takes her X3 to the full service wash!
 
I've started looking for a good detailer in my area, and maybe I'll discover something through that chain.
 
Thanks
Bruce

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