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Re: Comment on i-drive [richardga73] by bruceomega
Jul 24, 2007 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: richardga73 (Jul 23, 2007 5:56 pm)

richardga73,
 
As wolfer2 said, the sport package on the 535Xi does not change the suspension or wheels and tires. It includes the 20 way multi-contour seats, different steering wheel, and shadowline trim. And I did not order the optional 18" wheels and tires.
 
The same situation existed with my '06 330Xi. I got the sport package with that, but there was no change in suspension or wheel / tire size. There was a difference in wheel design, but not size, with the sport package.
 
Yes, my 535Xi is definitely smoother and less harsh riding than my '06 330Xi. To me, they both have great handling, but I've never pushed them to the limit. Also, I have no experience with the RWD versions, so cannot comment on how the AWD compares.
 
Thanks
Bruce
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Re: Comment on i-drive [shipo] by designman
Jul 24, 2007 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jul 24, 2007 5:16 am)

Regarding your question of "feel", I too went from a 3-Series to a 5-Series (albeit E46 to E39), and if anything, my 5-Series felt sportier AND more luxurious at the same time. Go figure.
 
I think the 5 has had less power assist in the steering which adds to the feel of the road. Also on the E60, the variable assist drops down considerably at highway speeds. On highway turns and jug handles at speed you really have to tug on the wheel with E60. I like that even though I would prefer it without the variable assist.
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Re: Comment on i-drive [designman] by shipo
Jul 24, 2007 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: designman (Jul 24, 2007 8:21 am)

"I think the 5 has had less power assist (than the 3) in the steering which adds to the feel of the road."
 
That might well have been the case with the later E46s, however, my E46 was a 1999 (built in 1998 no less) and it had the old/original "heavy steering".
 
FWIW, I much prefer a heavy wheel, and both cars were wonderful in that department.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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am I screwed? by richardga73
Jul 25, 2007 (6:00 pm)
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You are right, boys, the xi has an entirely different set of options than the i. That really sucks because I live in the deep south and it almost never snows here. Why would I want the extra weight on frame to get the sport package I want (without the suspension mods)? You can get the multicontour seats as a stand alone option but not the sport steering wheel and with all multicontours you have to get the dakota leather which doesnt come in black or beige. I always get a black interior. Why dont they let you order what you want. At least they started optioning the sport seats without the sport suspension. Not the steering wheel. I like a thick one.
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am I screwed? by richardga73
Jul 25, 2007 (6:02 pm)
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I meant the extra weight on frame as in the 4 wheel drive.
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Re: am I screwed? [richardga73] by gohorns1
Jul 25, 2007 (7:44 pm)
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Replying to: richardga73 (Jul 25, 2007 6:00 pm)

"you have to get the dakota leather which doesnt come in black or beige"
 
Actually, the dakota leather does come in black (as well as cream beige). In fact, that is what I did. I ordered a 535i with multicontour seats with the black leather interior and opted not for the sport package.
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Re: am I screwed? [gohorns1] by richardga73
Jul 26, 2007 (6:17 am)
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Replying to: gohorns1 (Jul 25, 2007 7:44 pm)

I guess edmunds is wrong. Under multicontour seats in the 535i they say "only available with LC(Dakota leather)" When you look under dakota leather it says:NOT AVAILABLE with beige,black.The caps are not mine, they are capitolized under Dakota leather.
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535x with sports suspension package by aussiem8
Jul 26, 2007 (8:44 am)
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I am currently leasing an Audi A4 that ends in a year. I am very interested in replacing it with a 535xi (which would be my first ever BMW), but would like to have the sports handling package that comes on the 535i. Does anyone know why BMW doesn't offer the sports suspension on its AWD variants?? This is obviously not an issue with Audi's since all sports variants come with quattro. Any insights would be appreciated.
 
Cheers
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Re: 535x with sports suspension package [aussiem8] by shipo
Jul 26, 2007 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: aussiem8 (Jul 26, 2007 8:44 am)

This has been hashed about a bit in the past and I don't believe that we've ever come up with a definitive reason. That said, until shown otherwise, it is my belief that it is a ride height issue. BMWs Sport Suspensions lower the car somewhere around an inch below the ride height of an otherwise identical "xi" model (which rides a tad higher than even a RWD non-SP car).
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: 535x with sports suspension package [shipo] by bruceomega
Jul 26, 2007 (1:35 pm)
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Replying to: shipo (Jul 26, 2007 10:22 am)

Shipo,
 
I've seen several people postulate that the tuning of the suspensions in the Xi models, both 3 and 5 series, is somewhere between the non-sport and sport suspensions of the equivalent RWD versions. Do you have any insight into this?
 
Thanks
Bruce

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