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#11890 of 12737 Re: lexus mistake [richardga73]
Jun 19, 2007 (5:43 am)
My wife has a Lexus ES 300, I've been driving a E39 530 for about 5 years. Perhaps stating the obvious:
The Lexus is a pleasure to ride in.
The BMW is a pleasure to drive.
I have also found the standard BMW suspension to be sufficiently sporty, and more versatile for our crummy Midwest roads, and think it is worth considering. I'm also looking forward to the new body style (very low miles on my E39), but would also consider an E-class, so everyone's comments in this regard are of particular interest.
The rap on Lexus reminds me of the recent Consumer Reports (which back in 2001 called the E39 "the best car they ever tested") in which they gave the new Lexus ES top marks overall, but stated that it "wasn't even remotely fun to drive"--ouch!
#11891 of 12737 535xi Outsold 528xi
Jun 20, 2007 (10:19 am)
I am considering a 2008 528xi. I never owned a BMW (I owned Mercedes and Lexus), so out of curiosity, I searched the web for sales figures and I came up with some interesting statistics (interesting to me anyway).
There were more 535xi sold than 528xi in the first two months (April and May 2007) since they hit the market.
What is more interesting to me is, historically, the bigger (or more powerful) engine xi's have outsold the smaller ones. The 530xi outsold the 525xi according to the sales reports.
I am beginning to wonder if I shouldn't be considering the 535xi myself for reasons such as resale value due to demand, etc. The 528xi has better fuel economy and less performance but costs less. Perhaps a 528xi is sufficient for an entry level BMW guy like me coming from Mercedes and Lexus
Any comments or advice?
#11892 of 12737 Re: 535xi Outsold 528xi [kcx]
Jun 20, 2007 (11:17 am)
Well, I can appreciate "value" in purchases, but when spending $50k+ for a car, why economize? Presumably you can afford either. While some are satisfied with the performance of the less powerful 6's, you should try a back-to-back comparison yourself. I think you may find the extra power somewhat intoxicating, and lure you into the BMW camp from the fine offerings at Lexus and MB. Or not. You may find the extra power isn't enough to justify the extra expense. I think either will hold their value ok for resale, and the difference in fuel economy should not be that big of a deal when considering such expensive cars, imo.
#11893 of 12737 Re: 535xi Outsold 528xi [sdg380]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Jun 20, 2007 (11:21 am)
Generally, the smaller-engine, lower-priced BMW model will hold a higher percentage of it's value. At least historically, this has been the case.
The 3.0 litre engine in the 528xi is pretty nice. If you don't drive the 535xi, you'll probably never miss it.
#11894 of 12737 Re: 535xi Outsold 528xi [kcx]
Jun 20, 2007 (12:17 pm)
I had a 2005 E320 and a 2006 525 at the same time (for about 7 months)and with exception to the upgraded stereo in the MB, I felt the BMW was far superior.
#11895 of 12737 Re: 535xi Outsold 528xi [kyfdx]
Jun 20, 2007 (5:23 pm)
Thank you all for replying.
I drove the 528i and 535i last Saturday and found that the 528i is sporty enough for me. The 535i is definitely quicker. Unfortunately the dealership did not have any xi's in stock. They had over a dozen 528i's and only one 535i. They are expecting a 535xi soon.
I hope the added weight on the 528xi doesn't make a noticeable difference in performance compared to the 528i I drove last weekend.
Before the test drive, I favored the 535xi because of the spec. After the test drive, I was leaning more towards the 528xi because I am not (or have not developed) a sporty driving style, and the 528i felt sufficient
I could be persuaded to consider a 535xi if there are obvious reasons for doing so. I'll give myself one more week to research and read what others say, and then I'll place an order.
Thanks again for your input.
#11896 of 12737 Re: 535xi Outsold 528xi [macdad]
Jun 20, 2007 (5:38 pm)
Superior in what dimensions????
#11897 of 12737 Re: 535xi Outsold 528xi [kcx]
Jun 20, 2007 (8:54 pm)
The 528ix will be a little less sporty than the 528i in both acceleration and handling. But it will not be night and day, by any means.
If you truly have no intention of pushing the car, get the 528ix. If you think you might be kicking yourself in 6 months, well...
Either is a great car, in any case. I'd rather drive an underpowered bmw than a overpowered lexus.
#11898 of 12737 Re: 535xi Outsold 528xi [dhanley]
Jun 21, 2007 (6:26 am)
dhanley, that is very good information to know, given that I was not able to test drive a 528xi! Thank you!
So, can I assume the 535xi is also "less sporty" than the 535i although the 535xi is 0.1 second faster than the 535i from 0 to 60mph? (with automatic transmission)
#11899 of 12737 Re: lexus mistake [sdg380]
Jun 21, 2007 (6:51 am)
Consumer Reports made their obervation in 2003 I believe - I also have a 2003 e39SP. Now if only I could drop the new twin-turbo in my car, it would even be "perfect-er"
Not to make any Lexus fans out there jealous, but I have yet to drop a dime into my car for maintenance outside of my summer tires. Doesn't mean I don't take it in - just have had a bullet-proof car and performed all required maintenance. Originally leased in 2003, then CPO'ed and purchased in Jan '06 since I knew more engine in the 5er was on the way. Drove the 535 and loved it, but may just hold on until the next series change in 2009 or so.
I'm looking into the iPOD adapter and docking station for the center console ashtray from DICE and will call it a day with this terrific machine.