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Re: My Test Drive of the 535Xi [richardga73] by topspin628
Jun 15, 2007 (4:35 pm)
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Replying to: richardga73 (Jun 15, 2007 12:49 pm)

I have the same "bug". About one year into my 3 year leases I start "hunting". I love it and "hate" it as sometimes it consumes me but overall it's a fun game and one I'm lucky to be able to play. I think it started for me as a teenager when I had a job parking cars at "fancy" country club. I got to drive MBs, Caddy's, Porsche and the rest. I vowed that one day I'd have enough money to buy one.
Three years ago I wanted the S Class as I felt it was the best looking and riding car out there. Reliability, lack of expected tech features and a lease that was about 400 per month sent me to Lexus for the LS. Great car but boring and numb. Regarding the 535, for fun I researched an old review on the M5 here on Edmunds and they said it was basically the best car money could buy at that time. Looking at most of the performance specs, the new 535 is equal or better in most categories and for a lot less $. The last gen M5 was around 75K back then. Oh and the mileage is much improved on the 535 vs the old M5. Interesting uh?
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Re: My Test Drive of the 535Xi [topspin628] by carnaught
Jun 15, 2007 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: topspin628 (Jun 15, 2007 4:35 pm)

Your self description to a great degree describes me as well.
 
I am a former Lexus owner and because I admire the brand, will probably buy another in the future. BUT, owning my last Lexus, the SC430 made me extremely bored with the car. It felt both heavy and numb at the same time, not a good combination. I became disillusioned to the point that I went back to German cars and my third BMW was just ordered this past week, a 535. This will replace my 3 Series lease which expires in late Aug.
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Re: My Test Drive of the 535Xi [carnaught] by topspin628
Jun 16, 2007 (4:32 pm)
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Replying to: carnaught (Jun 15, 2007 6:45 pm)

Congrats on your new 535. I am leaning that way as well. I would love to hear your complete review when you get it. What options did you get? Do you know when the body is changing?
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Re: My Test Drive of the 535Xi [topspin628] by carnaught
Jun 16, 2007 (7:15 pm)
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Replying to: topspin628 (Jun 16, 2007 4:32 pm)

What options did you get? Do you know when the body is changing?
 
Thanks for your wishes. On the car I got steptronic, premium pkg., premium logic 7 HK stereo, comfort access and Sirius sat. radio. After this exterior and interior freshening, more of a change is due either as the 2009 or 2010 model. This will be just in time for this car's (24 mo. ) lease expiration.
 
After having the sport's pkg. (S.P.) on a 540, I've been happier without it on my current 3 Series. I found the sport seats hard & more confining and the ride is softer on the non-sport. Also, I'm not crazy about the summer tires which wear quite readily. Most BMW-philes say to never get a BMW without the S.P. The S.P. is great but just doesn't work as well for me.
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Re: My Test Drive of the 535Xi [carnaught] by topspin628
Jun 17, 2007 (5:43 am)
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Replying to: carnaught (Jun 16, 2007 7:15 pm)

I am also leaning away from the sport this time. I had it on the 330 which I think fit the personality of that car and now for me on the 5, I think the normal suspension is sporty enough. Plus, I think I would get the all wheel drive version and I don't want to do the winter tire changes that I had to do on the 3. Could you share the details on your lease?
 
Thanks
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Re: My Test Drive of the 535Xi [topspin628] by carnaught
Jun 17, 2007 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: topspin628 (Jun 17, 2007 5:43 am)

Oh, forgot to mention that I also got Navigation with traffic updates.
 
Lease was 24 mo., 18,000 mi. per year with tax, license + fees first payment, then $930/mo. Admittedly, this was not the best posssible lease out there but my mileage and 24 mos. (I get bored of cars if I keep longer) cost me. Also, if a better deal comes within the next 90 days, I will get it.
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Re: lexus mistake [richardga73] by sdg380
Jun 19, 2007 (5:43 am)
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Replying to: richardga73 (Jun 15, 2007 12:53 pm)

My wife has a Lexus ES 300, I've been driving a E39 530 for about 5 years. Perhaps stating the obvious:
 
The Lexus is a pleasure to ride in.
The BMW is a pleasure to drive.
 
I have also found the standard BMW suspension to be sufficiently sporty, and more versatile for our crummy Midwest roads, and think it is worth considering. I'm also looking forward to the new body style (very low miles on my E39), but would also consider an E-class, so everyone's comments in this regard are of particular interest.
 
The rap on Lexus reminds me of the recent Consumer Reports (which back in 2001 called the E39 "the best car they ever tested") in which they gave the new Lexus ES top marks overall, but stated that it "wasn't even remotely fun to drive"--ouch!
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535xi Outsold 528xi by kcx
Jun 20, 2007 (10:19 am)
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I am considering a 2008 528xi. I never owned a BMW (I owned Mercedes and Lexus), so out of curiosity, I searched the web for sales figures and I came up with some interesting statistics (interesting to me anyway).
 
http://ca.autos.yahoo.com/s/01062007/31/link-finance-news-bmw-group-reports-8-7-percent-increase-sales.html?p=1
 
http://home.att.net/~fdmeloan/5_Series_Sales.pdf
 
There were more 535xi sold than 528xi in the first two months (April and May 2007) since they hit the market.
 
What is more interesting to me is, historically, the bigger (or more powerful) engine xi's have outsold the smaller ones. The 530xi outsold the 525xi according to the sales reports.
 
I am beginning to wonder if I shouldn't be considering the 535xi myself for reasons such as resale value due to demand, etc. The 528xi has better fuel economy and less performance but costs less. Perhaps a 528xi is sufficient for an entry level BMW guy like me coming from Mercedes and Lexus
 
Any comments or advice?
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Re: 535xi Outsold 528xi [kcx] by sdg380
Jun 20, 2007 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: kcx (Jun 20, 2007 10:19 am)

Well, I can appreciate "value" in purchases, but when spending $50k+ for a car, why economize? Presumably you can afford either. While some are satisfied with the performance of the less powerful 6's, you should try a back-to-back comparison yourself. I think you may find the extra power somewhat intoxicating, and lure you into the BMW camp from the fine offerings at Lexus and MB. Or not. You may find the extra power isn't enough to justify the extra expense. I think either will hold their value ok for resale, and the difference in fuel economy should not be that big of a deal when considering such expensive cars, imo.
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Re: 535xi Outsold 528xi [sdg380] by kyfdx HOST
Jun 20, 2007 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: sdg380 (Jun 20, 2007 11:17 am)

Generally, the smaller-engine, lower-priced BMW model will hold a higher percentage of it's value. At least historically, this has been the case.
 
The 3.0 litre engine in the 528xi is pretty nice. If you don't drive the 535xi, you'll probably never miss it.

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