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Re: v8 weight [jb_shin] by shipo
Jun 15, 2007 (5:36 am)
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Replying to: jb_shin (Jun 15, 2007 5:19 am)

"Interestingly enough, the latest issue of Roundel mentions that the new M3's 4.0 V-8 is actually 20 lbs. lighter than the 3.2 I-6 in the E46 M3."
 
Wasn't the block for the I6 in the M3 made out of a big'ol hunk of iron?
 
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Re: v8 weight [shipo] by jb_shin
Jun 15, 2007 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 15, 2007 5:36 am)

Wasn't the block for the I6 in the M3 made out of a big'ol hunk of iron?
 
Indeed, apparently for strength and compactness.
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Re: My Test Drive of the 535Xi [topspin628] by richardga73
Jun 15, 2007 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: topspin628 (Jun 15, 2007 4:56 am)

Topspin, as you know I have the E500 with 339 torque. I feel like you do in that the Benz is too luxurious. The steering wheel feels a little numb with very little road feel.The air suspension on the most firm setting still is soft without a lot of feel. Now in relative terms, it is more sporty than any of the lexi which purposely (even the small sporty one,I forgot the name). I rented a honda for a week on a trip and believe it or not it had more feel and sportiness than the benz, it honestly surprised me. I wish I had bought the bimmer 550 now even though at the time I thought it was ugly. I had a 330 sport and I absolutely miss it. When the new 5 bodystyle comes out I will seriously give it a very serious look. (Probably around 2009 or 2010)> I have gotten tired of just about every car I have owned around the one year mark except for the bimmers I have owned. They are just more fun to drive and in the long run if it doesnt beat you to death is the most important aspect. I am simply one of the biggest car nuts around, I wish I wasnt.
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lexus mistake by richardga73
Jun 15, 2007 (12:53 pm)
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I didnt finish the sentence about the lexus. I meant to say that on a sliding scale starting with sporty to luxury, the bimmers are on the left with the mercs in the middle and the lexi on the far right on the side of luxury, isolation,numbness and boredom.
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Re: My Test Drive of the 535Xi [richardga73] by topspin628
Jun 15, 2007 (4:35 pm)
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Replying to: richardga73 (Jun 15, 2007 12:49 pm)

I have the same "bug". About one year into my 3 year leases I start "hunting". I love it and "hate" it as sometimes it consumes me but overall it's a fun game and one I'm lucky to be able to play. I think it started for me as a teenager when I had a job parking cars at "fancy" country club. I got to drive MBs, Caddy's, Porsche and the rest. I vowed that one day I'd have enough money to buy one.
Three years ago I wanted the S Class as I felt it was the best looking and riding car out there. Reliability, lack of expected tech features and a lease that was about 400 per month sent me to Lexus for the LS. Great car but boring and numb. Regarding the 535, for fun I researched an old review on the M5 here on Edmunds and they said it was basically the best car money could buy at that time. Looking at most of the performance specs, the new 535 is equal or better in most categories and for a lot less $. The last gen M5 was around 75K back then. Oh and the mileage is much improved on the 535 vs the old M5. Interesting uh?
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Re: My Test Drive of the 535Xi [topspin628] by carnaught
Jun 15, 2007 (6:45 pm)
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Replying to: topspin628 (Jun 15, 2007 4:35 pm)

Your self description to a great degree describes me as well.
 
I am a former Lexus owner and because I admire the brand, will probably buy another in the future. BUT, owning my last Lexus, the SC430 made me extremely bored with the car. It felt both heavy and numb at the same time, not a good combination. I became disillusioned to the point that I went back to German cars and my third BMW was just ordered this past week, a 535. This will replace my 3 Series lease which expires in late Aug.
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Re: My Test Drive of the 535Xi [carnaught] by topspin628
Jun 16, 2007 (4:32 pm)
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Replying to: carnaught (Jun 15, 2007 6:45 pm)

Congrats on your new 535. I am leaning that way as well. I would love to hear your complete review when you get it. What options did you get? Do you know when the body is changing?
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Re: My Test Drive of the 535Xi [topspin628] by carnaught
Jun 16, 2007 (7:15 pm)
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Replying to: topspin628 (Jun 16, 2007 4:32 pm)

What options did you get? Do you know when the body is changing?
 
Thanks for your wishes. On the car I got steptronic, premium pkg., premium logic 7 HK stereo, comfort access and Sirius sat. radio. After this exterior and interior freshening, more of a change is due either as the 2009 or 2010 model. This will be just in time for this car's (24 mo. ) lease expiration.
 
After having the sport's pkg. (S.P.) on a 540, I've been happier without it on my current 3 Series. I found the sport seats hard & more confining and the ride is softer on the non-sport. Also, I'm not crazy about the summer tires which wear quite readily. Most BMW-philes say to never get a BMW without the S.P. The S.P. is great but just doesn't work as well for me.
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Re: My Test Drive of the 535Xi [carnaught] by topspin628
Jun 17, 2007 (5:43 am)
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Replying to: carnaught (Jun 16, 2007 7:15 pm)

I am also leaning away from the sport this time. I had it on the 330 which I think fit the personality of that car and now for me on the 5, I think the normal suspension is sporty enough. Plus, I think I would get the all wheel drive version and I don't want to do the winter tire changes that I had to do on the 3. Could you share the details on your lease?
 
Thanks
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Re: My Test Drive of the 535Xi [topspin628] by carnaught
Jun 17, 2007 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: topspin628 (Jun 17, 2007 5:43 am)

Oh, forgot to mention that I also got Navigation with traffic updates.
 
Lease was 24 mo., 18,000 mi. per year with tax, license + fees first payment, then $930/mo. Admittedly, this was not the best posssible lease out there but my mileage and 24 mos. (I get bored of cars if I keep longer) cost me. Also, if a better deal comes within the next 90 days, I will get it.

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