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sdg380 and e500 by richardga73
May 30, 2007 (7:32 pm)
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All of the e500's have the suspension that has the three settings.There is luxury,mid, and sport. The sport is sporty but is not harsh like my 3sport and the luxury setting is very smooth but controlled. It has air shocks which allow the adjustments.The air shocks while smooth in all settings seem a little isolated. I think I might prefer the spring shocks for feel.Yes, the 7 speed auto transmission is a dream and very reponsive. Not since my 1990 300zx twinturbo have I had a transmission that responded to the slightest nudge. I have also a 1998 e430 and it is less isolated and has spring shocks. I test drove a 550 auto nonsport before I bought the e500. First of all it was white which made it look like a large refrigerator this body style doesnt look good in white. Second, as I was driving alone without the salesman(I prefer it that way) I actually couldnt turn the radio off to hear whether the car was quiet or not! The idrive being that hard to deal with. I think the true test of whether a body style is good looking or not is how it looks in white.Everything looks good in black. The 550 has to be the perfect color with the right wheels to look just ok, still havent gotten use to the looks of it. Everything looks tacked on in person with no flow to the body. The e500 is gorgeous from any angle and I am a sucker for a really good looking car. Mercedes while maybe not having quite the driving dynamics as BMW's still look much better and along with the idrive fiasco tipped the scales.My mind is still with the BMW,they really connect with the driver and yet have a funny almost slight disregard for the looks department. Dont get me wrong they look better than Hondas and we are lucky to be driving any of these cars.
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Re: sdg380 and e500 [richardga73] by topspin628
May 30, 2007 (8:33 pm)
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Replying to: richardga73 (May 30, 2007 7:32 pm)

E500 is one of the cars I will consider along with the 5 series. What do you think of the E350 vs the E550? Can you post a review of your car? Some key factors for me are: Seat comfort, steering feel, stereo quality. What are your ratings of those on your car. How has the quality been since some late model MB's have had their problems. By the way, I was driven in a new S Class today and that is one beautiful car. The interior is beautiful. I always felt that the E Class was a notch below the S Class in the feel and quality of the interior. I'm not sure why they couldn't make the E a baby S or maybe they have in your 500?
Thank you
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Re: 550 vs 535 [sdg380] by jb_shin
May 31, 2007 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: sdg380 (May 30, 2007 12:54 pm)

V-8 can be made lighter than I-6, which is bulky by its layout (longer block, I think). When E46 M3's were being raced, the 4 liter v-8 was more compact and lighter than the smaller displacement I-6 it replaced.
 
I have not driven the 535, but have driven 335 for a day. I'd say it is VERY comparable to the v-8. I really did not think it was slower than my e39 M5 at all. It pulled hard without detectable turbo lag, whether launching or passing. The only thing I did not like about the power train was the sound, it just did not sound as good as the older I-6 engines.
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Re: sdg380 and e500 [richardga73] by sdg380
May 31, 2007 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: richardga73 (May 30, 2007 7:32 pm)

Richard, thanks for the comments, loved the "large refrigerator" crack, I'm also a little so-so about the E60 styling (I like the chassis, though), and it seems a shame that one has to "tolerate" iDrive (no flaming from E60 owners, please, I have yet to read a review that says that it's an advance.) And I totally agree that the current E styling is second to none. Interesting thoughts on the air shocks.
 
While I'd be tempted to also buy an E500, my E39 has low miles, so I'll probably just hang on for the new body styles in a couple of years (they look good in the spy photos), and maybe by that time they'll have iDrive sorted out.
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Re: 550 vs 535 [jb_shin] by sdg380
May 31, 2007 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: jb_shin (May 31, 2007 6:23 am)

JB, I'd certainly agree that a V engine is more compact than an I-6, and I suppose that specific design parameters (iron block v. aluminum, etc.) probably most effect weight.
 
And thanks for the comments on the 335, I haven't driven one, so maybe the twin turbo is the "new V-8". I think I had also heard that exhaust note was note quite up to the typical I-6, but a turbo can do that.
 
Has anybody driven a new 535?
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V8 more compact than an I6??? by shipo
May 31, 2007 (7:44 am)
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Ummm, I have to disagree. True a V8 is not as long as an I6 given that typical "V" engines are about 60%-65% as long as an inline engine with the same number of cylinders. Relative to these two engines, my bet is that the V8 would be roughly as long as an I5, meaning that the I6 is about one cylinder longer. That said, the I6 is WAY narrower than a V8, and as such will allow for lots of stuff to be positioned on either side of the mill where there would be no room in a "V" type of installation.
 
With the above in mind, I think that saying that a V8 is more compact than an I6 is incorrect, it's simply shorter (and probably heavier).
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: V8 more compact than an I6??? [shipo] by tayl0rd
May 31, 2007 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: shipo (May 31, 2007 7:44 am)

Don't forget about those turbos hanging off the side of that I-6. Those make it just as wide as the V8 or wider. Now it's longer and wider. And how would you equate a V8 being as long as an I-5? It would only be as long as a 4-banger since there's only 4 cylinders per bank.
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Re: 550 vs 535 [sdg380] by bruceomega
May 31, 2007 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: sdg380 (May 31, 2007 7:01 am)

sdg380,
 
I drove a 535xi last Saturday. It was everything I expected in terms of being smoother and quieter than my '06 330xi while still feeling sporty and responsive.
 
The 535xi definitely felt more powerful than my current car, despite being heavier. One specific difference is the 535xi felt very responsive in regular Drive mode- I didn't feel the need to shift into Sports Drive mode like I sometimes do now.
 
On the highway, as traffic would allow, I twice floored it while doing 70 mph with 3 people in the car. The car seemed to leap, smoothly, to 85 mph in a flash before I let up on the gas pedal.
 
Thanks
Bruce
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5 series rally in CA by bruceomega
May 31, 2007 (9:30 am)
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Apparently BMW recently staged a drive for the automotive press with all the current 5 series models. It started in Las vegas and ended up in California.
 
I did a quick check on Edmunds and did not see anything on them being part of the event. Does anyone know if Edmunds has a write-up on this?
 
Thanks
Bruce
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Oil cooler on 535 models? by bruceomega
May 31, 2007 (9:35 am)
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Does anyone know if the 535i and / or 535xi have an oil cooler?
 
I seem to remember reading that some of the initial twin turbo 3 series cars did not come with an oil cooler. BMW later made oil coolers standard equipment, and the earlier cars were retrofitted with one.
 
Thanks
Bruce

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