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#11342 of 12737 Re: BMW 5 Series - what year to buy? [shipo]
by div2
May 15, 2006 (9:24 pm)
My three favorite 5er "Street Eliminator" Stories:
1. 1988: Redneck in an early 80's Z28 tries to keep up with my 1973 Bavaria 3.0(the 5er's direct ancestor); I hammer him in the twisties but when the road straightens out he really puts his foot into it to catch me. Problem is, I know the road has two huge frost heaves located
500' from the last corner. Apparently he doesn't. My Bavaria glides over the buckled pavement at 80+, but when Bowtie Boy hits them his front end bottoms out and his front crossmember and oil pan dig into the pavement creating a beautiful shower of sparks. Twice. The last time I saw Z man he was s-l-o-w-l-y pulling over to the shoulder.
2. 1990: Carload of headbangers in a 1970 SS396 Chevelle decide to challenge my 1987 535is at a light. I pull ahead by two car lengths before I have to slow for the next light. They decide to turn off at the next side street...
3. Summer 2003(OK, this isn't a 5er story, but it's too good to leave out
): Jag XJS convertible cuts in front of my Club Sport as I'm taking an entrance ramp on to I-64. The driver is a textbook example of Mid-Life Crisis Man: comb-over hair, gold chains, and wrap-around sun glasses. His companion is a flashy blonde trophy wife/girlfriend/bimbo. The guy simply cannot stand for me to pass him, so the faster I go, the faster he goes. I settle in to a cruising speed of 85, trusting in my V1 and the fact that the Jag is serving as a "rabbit" in front of me. After several miles I notice the Jag is starting to smoke a bit. I speed up so-of course-the Jag speeds up. More smoke. I catch a whiff of antifreeze. This is just too good, so I turn up the wick a bit more; I can't believe the idiot hasn't noticed any problem. Oh well, I continue to push him up to about 95. At that point, the old Jag has had enough; clouds of steam suddenly billow out from under and around the hood. The sled finally pulls over to the emergency strip. My Club Sport now has a film of coolant covering the windshield, but it was worth it...
#11343 of 12737 Re: Troll Central??? [shipo]
by div2
May 15, 2006 (9:29 pm)
Yeesh, a wheezy Sonata outrunning a 530i? Geez, some people will believe anything.
A Camry? In a straight line it might actually be close, then again some roads (at least where I live) have some curves. Bye, bye Camry!
The wanna-BMWs are back! Yes, nothing gets my automotive juices flowing like a FWD V6 Korean econobox. Mmmmmm...
May 16, 2006 (5:21 am)
Uhh...pardon me but isn't that veering off line when accelerating quickly in the Avalon and Camry called "tourque steer?"
#11345 of 12737 Re: Huh? [hpowders]
by jimmy81
May 16, 2006 (5:43 am)
Uhh...pardon me but isn't that veering off line when accelerating quickly in the Avalon and Camry called "tourque steer?"
Well Mr Wizard, torque steer only is an issue when you're "steering". Got it. Like when the ole fogey Avalon steers in front of the 530 after leaving him at the last light. And then steers into the bank to deposit the money he saved over the 530. 300 hp vs. what, 225? Do the math.
BMW's way overrated.....
#11346 of 12737 Re: Troll Central??? [shipo]
by booyahcramer
May 16, 2006 (5:52 am)
A little defensive here? When someone points out a $45000 BMW with 220 hp is lacking solid acceleration that many mid-priced Asian sedans have they're labeled a troll, eh. Well the emperor has no clothes. And yes, a Sonata LX has 236 hp and is faster than a 530. An effin Hyundai!
Its probably time BMW got with the hp program that even a Camry now has.
#11347 of 12737 Re: Troll Central??? [booyahcramer]
by div2
May 16, 2006 (6:59 am)
Another big advantage that the Asian transport modules have is the large number of enthusiasts who autocross and track them on a regular basis. Plus the huge tuner support. And of course there's all those "Best Sports Sedan" awards the Camry and Sonata have picked up.
#11348 of 12737 Re: Troll Central??? [booyahcramer]
by shipo
May 16, 2006 (7:18 am)
Dude, it's always a good idea to make sure the brain is in gear before engaging the mouth (or the fingers in this case). First off, for whatever reason, BMWs have historically been much faster than the numbers on paper would otherwise indicate. Like it or don't. Second, the 530i has 255 hp, not 220. In fact, I cannot remember a 530i model ever having 220 hp. Maybe the old V8 version from the early 1990s?
As far as calling y'all Trolls, yup, that's what y'all are. Descending upon a dedicated forum and bashing the car in said forum is VERY Trollish behavior. I would expect the same treatment if I was to start posting on the Sonata forum claiming that it is nothing but an overpriced spam can. Now, if this was a comparison forum, then all bets are off of course.
As a final comment, BMWs have NEVER been all about horsepower. There have been times when they have evolved to the point where they were near the leading edge, however, I cannot remember any time in history when any non-M BMW was a class leader as far as horsepower is concerned. When the Trollish elements of the driving public finally get that through their heads I sincerely hope their incessant need to bash will evaporate.
Best Regards,
Shipo
#11349 of 12737 Re: Troll Central??? [shipo]
by div2
May 16, 2006 (7:30 am)
Well said! If someone is driving what they consider to be a superior automobile, why do they feel the need to justify it in forums dedicated to other marques? To paraphrase a friend of mine, I seriously doubt that there are any 5er owners who lie awake at night wondering if they should have bought a Hyundai or Toyota...
#11350 of 12737 Re: Huh? [jimmy81]
by hpowders
May 16, 2006 (7:49 am)
Why do you bother posting here?
Your comments are totally absurd and have no basis whatsoever in fact.
Just because you are miserable, why come over here and make ridiculous claims?
Go tell it on the mountain in the Toyota forums instead of embarrassing yourself here.
Your post is totally laughable!!
#11351 of 12737 Re: Troll Central??? [booyahcramer]
by hpowders
May 16, 2006 (7:58 am)
As Shipo correctly points out, BMW's have never been about the HP.
You are completely missing the point.
It's about the incredible balance and performance rivaled only by more expensive vehicles.
When I am driving on the interstate and I have to make a quick emergency maneuver, it's the BMW that will make it safely, not the Camry or bloated brother, the (ugh!) Avalon.
BMW's are relative bargains for what they are.