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Mazda Millenia, Sedan
Aug 20, 2001 (10:36 am)
That Millenia you are looking at is an "S" model, not the Millenium Edition. The Millenium Edition was painted either Highlight Silver or Millenium Red and had the dark charcoal interior with synthetic suede seats and leather wrapped gear selector and parking brake handle.
Execute demo means either a dealership manager used it as a "demo", or a Mazda corporate employee used it as a "demo" (the latter is called a "Brass Hat"). $22,500 is too high for that car. There is a $4,000 rebate on the 2001 models, plus discounts usually amounting to $2,000. That means you can pick up a brand new 2001 Millenia S for just a couple of thousand more. A more fair price would be between $20,000 and $20,500. Remember, this vehicle is in actuality a used car except for the fact that it hasn't been registered yet.
In terms of reliability, the Millenia S is an excellent car. You should easily get 150,000+ miles out of it without any major problems. Of course, you must keep-up maintenance on the vehicle. The supercharger and valve train are quite sensitive to oil quality. Do realize that maintenance is quite expensive on this car, particularly spark plug and timing belt changes. It is a drawback, but the 2.3L Miller-Cycle V6 is a marvel of engineering and is about as refined as you can get.
#836 of 4030 Thanks jstandefer
Aug 20, 2001 (12:27 pm)
The sales guy (I know, their product knowledge is usually "sub-par"- to be polite) said that this engine makes 260hp. I thought it only made 210. Am I mistaken?
I'm familiar with caring for turbos, but don't know much about supercharged engines. Is there any special care that needs to be taken with them, and should I be concerned about whether those 6k miles were 6k "hard" miles?
Thanks for your quick reply. I really appreciate it.
#837 of 4030 sreyem...
Aug 20, 2001 (12:55 pm)
It's 210 BHP, 210 torque.
Oil change should've been performed at 3K-5K miles.
I've bought 2001 S brand new (sticker 32.5) for $26K six weeks ago.
Hope this helps,
Aug 20, 2001 (5:35 pm)
Brian, for a couple thousands more, I would get the new 2001 Milenia. Many improvements were done to the car this past year, please take a look and test drive it before you buy the 2000 Millenia S. I know it cost more, but if you can qualify for Mazda 4.9% APR or even the 0% APR, you will ended up paying about the same. I don't think this rate is available on a used/demo car.
#839 of 4030 Wind Deflector
Aug 20, 2001 (6:28 pm)
Was it easy to install the wind deflector? Did you have to drill holes?
BTW, my car is running better and quicker. I guess more mileage has helped "break in" the car. In addition, I did not have to use the A/C last week and I think that made a difference. Do you have some pictures of your car with wind deflector and mud flaps? I would like to see them. I plan to take pictures of my car this weekend and will post the link here sometime next week.
#840 of 4030 Wind Deflector & Pictures
Aug 20, 2001 (7:00 pm)
the wind deflector has two hook-like contraptions that catch on the the edge of the sunroof opening - you tighten them with 2 screws, that's all. All you need is a Philips scredriver and 15 minutes (including reading the installation manual!). Really easy, just make sure the seal at the bottom of the deflector lays flat on the roof.
Pictures? - I'm not THAT much in love with my car... but now that you mention it, maybe I'll post something after the weekend. I really do like the mudflaps, I had them on my Passat and they do keep the car much cleaner on the sides (and tar-free, too!). Interestingly enough in some countries in Europe (as you can tell I am no native English speaker) they are required equipment as they reduce water spray thus improving visibility in the rain for those who follow you.
I'm glad to hear your Millenia is running smoother. Enjoy it! and take it easy, you still have 50K miles of bumper-to-bumper warranty to iron out any glitches. I tell you, this car grows on me . . . I like it more and more every day.
#841 of 4030 Rear Spoiler and leather seats
Aug 21, 2001 (6:33 pm)
I went to Ebay's web site earlier today and saw several Millenias for sale. I noticed that several of them had rear spoiler. Did Mazda offer rear spoiler as an accessory for pre-2001 models? I looked at the list of accessories for 2001 Millenia and did not see rear spoiler. Where can I get one and how much do they cost?
This is my first car with leather seats. A friend told me Lexol is the best product for leather seats. What do you guys use?
Aug 22, 2001 (10:00 am)
Currently starting to seriously consider a new car. After about another 1-2 months I'll have enough of my TBird payed off to sell it cheap and get rid of it. (NEVER EVER EVER BUY A FORD PRODUCT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
I've actually been seriously considering/looking an Acura 3.2TL -- 99 or 00 model. 3.2L 225HP engine, schwwinngg LoL... but anyhow they are great cars, great reliability, but it's going to be slightly hard finding one for under $20000 with decent miles. Although, perhaps by the time I'm ready to buy (late Sept/Early Oct.) that'll be a better time for lower prices right (winter/fall time...)
Anyhow, I also have always liked the Millenias. To me they are another Acura Legend (GREAT looking cars... just classy and understated and will continue to get looks for 10-15 years) I still see a 92 Legend on the road and damn thats a nice car.) But I digress....
The really attractive part of the Millenia is the crappy resale --- 2000 Millenia S Milleniums for like $18-19k. with 20-30k mileage. I don't care about resale in this case (Acura or Mazda) because I plan on having the car throughout college -- (about 7 years) and I plan on putting tons of mileage on it (by the time I'm ready to sell it I should have added at least 120k)
So I need a car that WILL last. Without a lot of major problems/maintenance. I can handle the 60k service (I'll just start my lil' "Service Fund")
But I'm worried about the tranny... I had to replace that in my TBird and spend $750 on one from a junked car --- new was like $1900. Excuse me, that was actually to rebuild mine -- I don't even want to guess new price.
According to Consumer Reports -- Reliability is "Very Good".
With the engine getting the red circle with the dot (best) for 98 & 99 -- but a full black dot for 95! the three years avail. (some have insuff. data) 95--98--99 have the Very Good and Excellent for Trannys... so is it just that they aren't smooth, but still well built?
I'm under the impression these are assembled in Japan which leads me to believe they have superior build quality inside (i.e. no squeaks/rattles, fit finish probs...) Over on the Acura TL board -- the TL is very good, however, many that have owned the Legends before hand (assembled in Japan, TL in US) said they notice a major difference and the Legend just felt more solid. Thats one part where the Millenia earns my vote if its true. Squeaks and rattles drive me insane -- and my TBIrd the whole thing is HORRID. I just have the radio blaring all the time.
on the 2k Millenium Ed. with the BOSE -- whats the configuration of it?
(speakers/wattage) The TL has a 5 speaker (4 doors & an Nd Woofer in the rear deck) it has good sound, but it could seriously use some tweeters. I'm not an audiophile, but I like to turn up a good song and get good solid bass and treble without it getting distorted but still sounding good.
I guess that's it for now -- any thoughts, suggestions, etc etc. would be appreciated!!!
#843 of 4030 Hi......re: Tommy
Aug 22, 2001 (1:46 pm)
in regards to the Millenium Ed....I have the silver one...purchased about 5 months ago w/ 4,000 miles on it for $22k....bought through my best friend who ran a dealership (was a rep. car)...stickerd for $32.5k.....After 5,000 miles I still love it .....just did the wheels (painted calipers and parts of rotors last weekend).....have gotten about 10 compliments on them since....overall though, great car...not super quick off the line, but simply flies on the highway...the Millenia's are soooooooo much more sleek and attractive than the Acura's (which I think have an ugly rear)....the Millenia really doesn't have a bad angle.....I have a couple of small adjustments to be made, but nothing not covered with the factory warranty they gave me, (5 yrs. or 50,000)....I plan to sell though in about 3-4 years.....In my opinion, it is one of the most aerodynamically shaped luxury/sport vehicles on the road (supported by it's great wind drag coefficient)...get the Mill. Ed. (6 CD in dash), speakers are OK, but I'm an audiophile and will revamp whole thing shortly (next project)....for everyday music lovers it is quite sufficient though...5 speakers, one in dash and standard 6x9 rear deck rears and 6 1/2 inch fronts....I am swapping all speakers and will use separates in the front to raise the sound stage to ear level....anymore advice and I'd be happy to respond......
*****anyone out there have luck with an aftermarket muffler/exhaust system??? where????
#844 of 4030 New Millenia owner
Aug 24, 2001 (4:18 am)
Well, I finally pulled the trigger and purchased an '01 Millenia P Wednesday that will primarily be my wife's car (I still enjoy my Protege too much!). The price for the car was right at $22K which seems to be pretty good from what I have read. So far, it is a joy to drive and I can't help but doing a double-take every time I walk away from it! We got the Platinum color and it looks great. It will look even better once we get the windows tinted.
The only other car we really considered was the Accord EX V6. In the end, we 1)thought the Millenia was more attractive, 2)thought the Millenia was a great bargain, and 3)didn't think the world needed another Accord on the road! Yeah, we give up some power and will probably get dinged a bit should we need to sell it anytime in the next few years, but in the end, we feel like we are in a much more luxurious car for less money, so I guess value is in the eye of the keyholder.
Now we have to work on just having 825 posts. I think the Protege board gets that in a good day!