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#2936 of 4030 2002 Millenia S-Lemon
Feb 16, 2004 (10:55 am)
Hello every one I am a first timer and would like some secondary opinions here. I have an 02 Millenia S which I bought new for my wife 4 days after our best friends traded in there 96 "S" for a new 2002 "S". From the start we have had rattles and check engine light problems (3 sensors). Rattles that kept re-occuring or that the dealership "couldn't duplicate". They replaced speakers added foam replaced panels...but the rattles keep popping up. We also dealt with a "clunk" along with a shimmy or vibration at speeds over 60mph in the rear that has been looked at at least six times by two different dealerships...finaly after the car has 45,000 miles they tell me that the rear shock is bad. New shock...car still vibrates and shimmys...the dealership tells me that i have 3 bent rims? I'm asking why...I'm told that it's common...? I think that maybe the shock had something to do with it or maybe even defective wheels..I'm not going to accept that manufactures don't have to warrany an item that can't handle everyday driving. I could understand if it were just one rim but 3, lets get real. Hey here is an idea maybe the rims have been bent since day one and that is the reason for all of the rattle. Oh yeah and factory tires that are SHOT after 30,000 miles of interstate driving...that's not acceptable.
My friends who have the same car wit about the same mileage (45,000-50,000) have said as well that their 1996 Millenia was twice the car. What gives...the few miles this car actually ran good WE LOVE IT! We honestly don't know what we are going to buy next, but after dealing with Mazda service you can be sure that it won't be a mazda.
Feb 16, 2004 (1:14 pm)
I'd take it to an independent shop for the purpose of having it checked for collision damage. There is no logical way to have all that damage otherwise unless you run it hard over badly potholed roads, which you have not indicated.
If you were sold a wreck as new, you can take legal action against the dealer who sold it to you.
Wheels don't bend themselves, and MM's are usually extremely rattle free.
Feb 16, 2004 (5:27 pm)
I have to agree with fwatson on this. I have an '02 S, grant it I do not have as many miles on mine, and I have not heard one rattle out of mine. If you want too you can go to carfax.com and they will give you one free check, or so they say, and you can see if it has been in an accident.
#2939 of 4030 '02 S rattles
Feb 16, 2004 (6:45 pm)
My 01'S with about 37K miles has no rattles at all. Highway ride is excellent & quiet (just came back from 180 mile trip today, the thing FLIES... and gets great mileage on the highway, too).
I think you should try different dealer.
Feb 17, 2004 (10:30 am)
I agree with the above opinions: it is possible that the car has been in an accident (especially rear end). I had a few cars with rebuilt titles in the past, and I know how annoying the rattling can be on wrecked cars. One of my cars with "rebuilt title" had weird rattling, and no auto mechanic or body shop specialist was able to determine the cause of the rattling. I believe that wrecked cars may have some body damages that are absolutely invisible to auto mechanics. I do not want to disappoint you, but sometimes some dealers go through all kinds of steps to clean an accident history. I recommend you to take the car to body shop and ask them to check for any suspicious looks of body parts. Also go through complete history of that particular car, and if you find any proof that the car has been in an accident - return it to the dealer for full refund, or he can be in a deep trouble. Unfortunately there are some cases when dealers buy wrecked (even new, damaged during transportation) cars, repair and resell them. Legally they should notify the buyer that the car has been wrecked and repaired, sometimes even provide a written disclosure.
Feb 18, 2004 (6:48 am)
Just turned over 60k today. Anyone know what maintenance NEEDS to be done at 60k by a mechanic? Anything else I will just do on my own. I know the timing belt is good to 105k, so that isn't a worry. Also, I know some of you have had the climate control blower fan bearing act up. Is this something I can do on my own or does it require too much "digging" thru the engine compartment?
Feb 18, 2004 (2:20 pm)
I also had a problem with blower noise in my car (01P)and I was able to get rid of it by removing the cabin filters located under the dash passenger side. Remove the plastic kick panel cover, un screw a 13mm nut to remove the filters. Un plug motor connector next to the filters (it is the circular thing to the right). Then removing the fan motor and blower by unscrewing three phillips screws at the bottom of the motor . The motor just slides down and out. There was a built up collection of leaf particles and pine needles in the blower fan blades. After cleaning the fan and blowing out the filters with compressed air all was as quiet as new.
Feb 23, 2004 (8:27 am)
Went in over the weekend to have the oil changed and inspect for anything obvious that needed to be done at 60k. The serpentine belt was cracked and the transmission fluid was getting dirty. Had them replace the belt and flush the fluid. It was about 80 bucks for each. I replaced the air filter myself also. Alignment was also off, but that is expected driving in Cleveland in the winter. Potholes the size of Texas all over the place. Total bill for all was just over 200 bucks. Shocking when I went in hoping for a nice 12.99 oil change. All said, the car is running great and no real problems up until now except for a bad wheel bearing.
Feb 24, 2004 (5:29 am)
I would assume that you are going to have a mechanic change your spark plugs? Or do you feel brave enough to have a go at it yourself? I thought that you said you have an S. If I am mistaken and you have a P then the spark plugs are no big deal. By the way are you going to change your own fuel filter?
Feb 24, 2004 (10:11 am)
I have a P model. Work last week was done at a tire place, figured they couldnt mess up the serpentine and tranny flush. Still I dont think I am going to fool around with the spark plugs and fuel filter. I am going to take it to a reliable machanic for the tune up, spark plugs, etc. The stupid CEL came on again today. Really rough idle, rpm's drop to about 500. Feels like it isnt getting enough gas. Happened last week but cleared the same day. Going to go to AutoZone today to see if they can give me the code. Maybe this is related to a fuel filter, maybe not. Also, noticed today that when starting up in the morning in the cold, the fist maybe minute of driving I got a horrific high pitched squeal when I hit the gas. Not sure what this is. Could it be related to the tranny flush? Getting real fed up right now. Any ideas from you guys?