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Mazda Millenia, Sedan
Sep 11, 2003 (4:24 pm)
Close, but you said to correct you. I am posting the following because it has always interested me.
"20th October, 2000
Millenia - new face, new name… okay, it’s new
"Mazda Australia has opted for a new name for its Miller Cycle engine powered flagship saloon. Previously the Eunos 800, it will now be known as the Millenia."
"Millenia is part of an unfulfilled dream. A decade ago, Mazda saw Lexus and Infiniti succeeded in entering prestige car market, so it established two new brands, Xedos and Eunos, for Europe and Asia respectively, to market the prestige line of cars. Two prestige cars were developed, Eunos 500 (Xedos 6) and Eunos 800 (Xedos 9), intended to rival BMW 3-series and 5-series respectively. The American operation Amati was to be set up before the company went into financial trouble. Mazda woke up from the dream.
The Eunos 800 (Xedos 9) is still surviving today, but no one cares about its brand name any more. In Japan and North America, it is simply branded as Mazda Millenia."
Sep 12, 2003 (9:43 am)
I did not say you had to buy the "S" if you wanted the Bose.I said he wanted to sell me the "S" with the Bose radio.
I know the base car can be optioned out with the Bose, this sales guy just wanted to milk my pockets for 40 more horses(170 base 210"S") and a few more watts.
#2602 of 4030 billyperks/I understand
Sep 12, 2003 (11:54 am)
I'm with you. I also couldn't justify the price difference to get 40 more hp in the 'S'. But I did want the Bose and Cold Weather options on my car. I found the power on the 2.5 v-6 to be enough for my driving needs. It ran nicely on regular gas, too.
#2603 of 4030 One Year Anniversary- 2002 Millenia S
Sep 13, 2003 (11:36 am)
Purchased a 2002 S almost a year ago with alloy wheels and winter package, and thought I would give an informed opinion as I now have 22,000 miles on it. Very glad, I purchased the S, didn't think the base model had much pep.
Overall, I love it and strongly recommend it to anyone looking for a quality car.
Haven't had any problems except for the tires due to hitting about 30 potholes last winter. That's not the car fault. Had to replace one tire last May, a Goodyear at $153 which was defective and was replaced last week by Sears at no cost to me.
Average mileage is only 20 mph which is disappointing. That does involve substantial stop and go traffic, though. Last week, had mostly highway travel and got 23 mph.
Have been using 93 octane but due to the high price of gas, I have used 89 a few times without any perception of decreased performance and there was no pinging. Plenty of pep when you step on the gas.
The car is so quiet at low speeds that it sounds like it not turned on. The night I bought it, I thought the engine had stalled out when I stopped at a stop sign! Of course I previously owned a Ford Contour which was very noisy. However, it is noisy when it is windy outside, more so than other cars I have owned. I'm not sure if this is due to the sun roof or from the tires.
Would like to get recommendation on regular tires and snow tires. It is terrible in snow with the regular tires.
Still love the looks of it and the paint job, sand mica. (Although I think the earlier models were better looking.) It is very distinctive looking. (The new flagship Lexus which costs 60K looks just like a Camry in in my opinion.) Bose stereo with 6 CD changer is great.
Air conditioning is weak compared to American cars. Luckily we don't have too many really hot days in Boston area. I will get a recharge next year and see if it makes any difference.
Leg room is tight. I am 5'10" (30" inseam) and if there was any less leg room I wouldn't have bought it. Is there a way to extend the seat? I don't think tall people would be comfortable in it.
Although it has the big 17 inch tires, I don't feel comfortable driving it much past 85-90. My Contour actually handled better at high speeds.
The transmission is much better matched to the engine then the 2000 models that I extensively tested. This is a major improvement in the newer models in my opinion. Also very little noise from the compressor. The earlier models that I tested seemed to be noiser.
Finally, does anyone know it you can buy a device to automatically turn the lights on when you start the engine?
#2604 of 4030 One Year Anniversary
Sep 13, 2003 (3:00 pm)
Very enlightening, well written. Thank you for your valuable input. Many years ago it was the "fashion" to have an after market running light hanging out of the grill. This was years before it became mandatory in Canada and now or soon to be in USA. It was a simple 12v (or maybe 6v back in those dark ages) bulb that connected across the low voltage side of the ignition coil. One of the parts outlets must have something similar, Pep Boys, Discount Auto etc. This will be my first year driving a 2000 MM S in winter conditions. My wife and I have spent the last 9 or 10 years in the Tampa Bay area in Florida but my wife's MS has progressed to the point that travel is no longer an option. Previous owner installed Michelin 225x45/17's and they are much better than other Michelins I have owned. I think they are glued to the road even in tight turns. Reading tire reviews on www.tirerack.com I have come away with the impression that Continental Conti Extreme Contact would be a good tire to consider. It has a 8.9 snow rating which is very high. Like you, I worry about driving in snow - me for the first time in a decade. I had over 35 years of winter driving in many different vehicles but you never get used to it. First snowfall of the season and you learn all over again. These low profile tires may look good to most people but I am not a great fan of the look. The narrow profile leaves less rubber/air between the road (potholes) and the rim and it is easy to get a slight ding or dent. My left rear tire loses about 3 lb over a 7 or 8 day span. No visible damage on the outside so I suspect a dent or whatever on the inside. If I were to get winter tires it would be on 16" rims if I win the lottery and can afford a set of 4. Nothing on the Millenia comes cheap. I am looking forward to the heated seats - I have the winter package also. I have a suggestion ... we all move in with fwatson in warm sunny Florida starting in late October and stay until mid April. Just a thought. fairwood
#2605 of 4030 device to automatically turn the lights on
Sep 14, 2003 (6:34 am)
slingshot1, just leave the light switch in the "on" position, shutoff is automatic when you turn off the car. That'll accomplish lights-on when you start the car.
Sep 15, 2003 (5:09 am)
Slingshot1, I also have an '02 s but I do not have any problems with the leg room, I am 5'10" and have a 32" inseam. If you are talking about the back seats I would agree with you on the lack of leg room but not in the front seats.
As for mpg's I think 20-21 is what Mazda says you should be getting on this car in town. Your highway mileage is low, that should be closer to 27 mpg. I am getting 23-24 in town mpg and 27 on the highway. I am going to be taking a trip within a month through the midwest and I will see if the highway mileage goes up any.
#2607 of 4030 Millenia S, 60K service, Dealer Prices, Tips and Opinions.
Sep 15, 2003 (3:57 pm)
I recently had the full 60K service done on my 2000 MilleniaS, even replaced all of the belts. I knew it was going to be expensive, but I was rather shocked when I stopped by the dealership and got a quote for $2250. So, I did my homework, searched on the internet and cartalk.com for area garages that could do the work. I found a place that specialized in Mazdas and had good reviews from people who had their cars serviced there. I had everything done, timing belt, plugs, gas filter, tire rotation, etc, even replaced all the other belts (not part of the dealer quote) for $1200. About half as much as a dealership and the garage was about twice as competent. Just remember that the dealership is not the only place you can get complicated work done on a MilleniaS and it pays to look around. I also recommend finding a garage where the people are enthusiastic about the brand and use real Mazda parts.
With that said, I'm still glad I purchased a Millenia. No mechanical problems yet and it still rides well. $1200 isn't cheap, but I like that car and if I keep it for another 60k without any trouble, it's money well spent.
BTW, someone mentioned weak air conditioning in their S. The recharge should take care of the problem.
#2608 of 4030 Thanks for Feedback
Sep 15, 2003 (5:37 pm)
Thanks for the above comments. With respect to the leg room, I like to sit back perhaps more than most people but I am always looking for that extra inch. I move the seat at different angles to compensate. On mileage maybe I drive too fast to get good mileage. I will look into the recommended snow tires as soon as possible. I thought that the lights might shut off after a while but I was afraid that the battery might die. I will try this and see how long it takes before they shut off.
On the noise issue, it generally is not a problem, especially with the Bose system. It is primarily when it is windy outside and it almost sounds like something is open which is letting the noise in. I'll try it in the upcoming hurricane!
Sep 15, 2003 (5:55 pm)
Jmadams: $1,200 seems very expensive to me. Is there a lot of labor cost because they have to take part of the the engine apart to get at the belts, etc?
Unless there's some adjustment to the compressor that is necessary or some unusual item, it seems that most competent mechanics could do the work for less. I have been bringing it to a Mazda dealer most of the time for oil changes but I will see how much my regular mechanic will charge or see if he doesn't want to go near it.
(The dealer that I bought it from opened and closed in about six months. I still haven't figured out why. He has a large Mazda dealership about 50 miles from my home then opened this other one in a Chysler dealership about 20 miles away from me. That was the main reason, I bought it there and I also bought a warranty that is tied into the dealer somewhat with a "disappearing deductible.) I am going to see if I can cancel it and get some money back.)
It is probably a good idea to change all of the belts at the same time as a broken belt is probably one of the main reasons that the vehicle would break down.