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Mazda Millenia, Sedan
#2252 of 4030 Advice to 1st Time Buyer
Dec 27, 2002 (4:41 am)
I have a 2000 Millenium Base (now P) and have been nothing but thrilled with the car. It has great styling, and it is nice to drive something a bit unique in this Accord/Camry world. In my opinion, it is the most value for the money, when you consider the hefty rebates and discounts.
There are those who sing the praises of the Miller engine in the S, but I believe the 2.5V6 is adequate. It will not win drag races, but it can give you power when you need it. My previous vehicle, Probe GT with same Mazda 2.5V6, performed well over the 6 years I had it.
Reliability has been reported to be as good as Honda and Toyota. The only problem I have experienced is some squeaky rear sway bars, which were replaced under warranty.
I, too, once had a Protege years ago. The Milennia ride is head and shoulders above the econobox.
I do not think you will go wrong with a choice of the Millenia, unless you are looking for resale value. The hefty discounts erode resale value significantly.
#2253 of 4030 RE: timing belt at 105K by csuftitans
Dec 27, 2002 (12:58 pm)
Thanks for your advice. I called up Mazda's customer service again and spoke to another person who turned out to be a lot more helpful.
The reason for the discrepancy is what you said--California's environmental law where the part is required to be in the car. However, Mazda nevertheless recommends servicing at 60K.
I asked the Mazda rep if the timing belt in CA is built to last 'til 105K, and she flat out said "NO!"
What I don't understand is why would they then put in the owner's manual to have it serviced at 105K? Wouldn't that be negligible?
Anyway, I have to find out a good place to get timing belt serviced.
Dec 31, 2002 (6:07 am)
Hey guys just letting you all know that I finally landed a somewhat good deal on a 2003 Acura 3.2TLS.
I got it at $200 over invoice-picked it up yesterday,so far so good.Apart from the snowy streets that keeps messing up the lovely White diamond pearl paint.
I will be dropping by on this board now and then because I still have love for the Millenia.
Between us-its a much better looking car than the TL.
#2258 of 4030 New Car!!!!!!! by billyperks
Dec 31, 2002 (10:59 am)
how's the transition? Whats different (for better or worse) compared with the Millenia? (you had S, right?)
And do you know if next year's TL will be based on the new Accord or they'll keep the old platform?
Dec 31, 2002 (2:57 pm)
Does anybody have any suggestions for a repair manual for a 2002 Millenia S? The only thing I've been able to find online is a Chiltons that covers just about every car Mazda ever made, and ends with the 1998 models. I'm skeptical about how much info will be on the Millenia when so many different models are covered ( 323/MX3/MX6/Protege/626/Millenia/etc ). And ending with the 1998 model year, I suspect there are some differences in the 02's that would not be there. I asked my dealer about getting one of their shop manuals, but they are a tad pricey ( over $100 ), and they said not geared to the average do it yourself person.
Also, anybody have any experience with a bra on their car? I personally do not like the way they look, and have heard they can do more harm than they prevent. But there is a gravel quary about 7 miles down the freeway, and the debris those gravel trucks drop on the road is starting to beat up my front end pretty bad. So I thought a bra might become necessary. My dealer says Mazda does not even offer a bra as an option for the Millenia.
Jan 02, 2003 (5:50 am)
To tell you the truth I am still in transition,just picked it up on 12/30/02.
Right now I think it is for the better,don't get me wrong now, the two cars are great but I think the Acura wins on the following points-
Engine 3.2 (tls) amazing power
Interior is a bit more spacious
Does a better job soaking up those pot holes
Sequential Sport shift(fun to play with- I would rather the real thing.)
I think the service is going to top that of Mazda's,they installed a set of mud guards for free and they also washed the salt and snow that was on the car.
Overall I think the the fit and finish of both cars are on par.
The Mazda white pearl paint is much better also the Mazda Bose is better IMHO.
I am going to repeat myself,if Mazda had slap that Amati name on the Millenia and did the right upgrades and marketing this car would be right up there with the lexuses, benzes, bmw's etc etc.
I will keep you posted on how the Acura is holding up.
PS- I had the "P", but I drove the "S" for about a week.
#2261 of 4030 Congratulations
Jan 02, 2003 (6:57 am)
on the new 3.2 billyperks. I was at the veterenarians a couple of weeks ago. I exited the building with a couple that went to a new 3.2 TL sitting next to the sidewalk. I got a chance to take a fairly good look at it as I spoke with them. It really is a beautiful car and I hope you are happy with yours. They had just traded a Lincoln LS in on it and he had been very unhappy with the LS.
My '01 P is at 8000 miles now, and the only news to report on it is no news. Up until this point it has performed flawlessly with no problem of any kind. It has had three oil/filter changes, and I rotated the tires at 7500. If you find your Acura as satisfying as I have my MM-P, you have made a good choice. I'll be looking forward to updates from you on the Acura, as I know you have been fair with your assessment of the MM. It should make a good comparison.
I am sure you will find the extra power noticable, but still for my use I find nothing lacking with the MM.
Happy Acura New Year.
Edit: I got a tiny rock chip on the hood that I tried to touch up with the bottle of paint Mazda sent me. The problem is the touch-up paint is very thin (I shook the dickens out of it) and appeared it would not look good if I left it, so I wiped it off. Have the rest of you had that problem with the touch-up paint?