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Mazda Millenia, Sedan
Mar 22, 2002 (5:52 pm)
fwatson, remember saxonii? banned and re-incarnated ?
Anyway, my 2000 Millenia S now has over 44000 trouble free miles. The more I drive the more I love this car. I'm going to keep my car until it dies; hoping to get 250,000 miles (yes, it's possible to get 250,000 miles out of a Mazda). I have a co-worker who's still driving his '90 626 hatchback with about 243K miles on it and still going.
And yes, Millenia's design is timeless and beautiful. The design of this car will not look old even five years from now; kinda like how the mazda '93-'97 MX6 are, but better. Mazda's designer sure knows how to design a beautiful car.
#1528 of 4030 Just a thought by csuftitans
Mar 23, 2002 (4:36 am)
"remember saxonii? banned and re-incarnated ? "
Yes, I've started to ask speed33 about his '86 Grand Marquis a few times. LOL
#1529 of 4030 mazda Millenia
Mar 24, 2002 (7:20 pm)
Like I said I do not trust CR - it is a publication aimed at middle age house wifes who cannot select their own blenders and toasters. They destroyed Trooper's reputation for no good reason yet somehow missed Ford Explorer and its stablility issues. As for car point - well it is a site run by Microsoft and I doubt they are more reputable than CR. What counts is real life and there Mazda Millenia does not shine. There have been others who have listed its shortcomings so I will not repeat them, but no matter how many sites and publications print good things about Mazda Millenia, it is still very expensive to fix. Shenequa and others who have problems with their Millenias could not care less what CR says, for them it is time to pay and pay big $$$$ to fix their vehicles. You felows have brand new Millenias and let's face it even the Koreans can make a decent car that will run trouble free for couple of years, it is what happenes after that, that counts.
Millenia is not Mazda's greatest achievement period. People on the street know what is good and what is not. That is why RX7 will hold its value while Millenia will not.
As for saxon2, well, didn't you guys blast him on this board??????? He has not posted in a while and already you guys miss him. Saxon come back !!!!!!
Hey I cannot wait to be called a troll as for the car well it was not made in 1986. ou gentlemen have a nice evening!
#1530 of 4030 Trolls and other Vermin
Mar 25, 2002 (3:03 am)
It's always good to meet someone who knows more about a subject than all the professional mechanics and writers combined. Not to mention all the stupid owners that sold out to CR on those rigged questionaires.
Please continue to post your tripe so the members of the Millenia forum can have a good laugh at your expertise.
Your vendetta against Millenia, Consumer Reports, Carpoint, and anyone else who won't take your vindictive point of view, has upset me so much I'm about to pee my pants. Pardon me while I make a quick trip to the bathroom. LOL
Mar 25, 2002 (6:00 am)
Reliable, not reliable, value for the money, shortcomings, . . . it's all subjective, gentlemen. Remember that.
There are cars considered to be reliable that'll brake. There are cars considered utter crap that will go on forever:
when I came to this country, I bought 1 year old 1991 Plymouth Acclaim V6, made in Mexico, with Mitsu engine for $8500 - sold it 4 years later for 4500. The two things I had to fix: speed sensor ($35 incl. labor) and muffler ($60 or so). Does that make it a great car? I would call it sofa on wheels... but I really liked it (in the way you like an ugly pet).
So, it's all opinions, personal experiences and perception! What is good for one person, is not good for another. That's why some people buy pickup, and some buy Porsches. Even my 6 year old understands a Porsche wouldn't work for us and why we have a van. I've tried Maxima, Acura TL and others, and Millenia S worked at the time the best for me. Will I buy it (or something similar) again? I don't know - I'll tell you 3-4 years from now. You don't step into the same river twice, you know...
To each his own!
I am not supporting those calling Saxon II back, because you could not have a discussion with him - he was so narrow minded and petty in persisting that everybody who dares to have a different opinion (even based on one's own experience) was subject to long winded, irrational, insubstantiated attacks with no factual support (i.e. Millenia has not changed since 1995 and Maxima is DA BEST (although built on an older platform than Millenia, with rather primitive suspension)).
And I don't have nearly eough time to participate in pointless slugfests that people like Saxon love to spark. Don't get drawn into it!
Take it easy -
Mar 25, 2002 (6:08 am)
Everybody has a right to their opinion, but I think no matter how you cut it Mazda still offers the biggest bang for your buck.
As far as CR is concerned, like any other publication it has to be used as a guide. If you want to take it or any other publication as gospel of course you are going to find problems with them. If I had listened to CR I would have not bought a Millenia I would have bought a Passat or a Camary. I looked at a Passat and I did not like it. So I guess for all of us "middle age housewifes" that use it as a guide I guess we are in a minority. As far as the Trooper goes I don't care who would have stated that I would not have looked at, not that I would have anyway. I think ones life is more important than a corporations bottom line is.
Just my two cents worth.
Mar 25, 2002 (8:54 am)
Everybody is entitled to their opinion, and has the right to state it. That's what online forums are all about. Most of us do that, and it creates a good conversation. Some others, usually those who do not, have not, and probably never will own the product being discussed have a strange need to come on with untrue, and unsubstantiated statements with the sole purpose being to cause an argument, which in turn gets them the attention they crave. That is a troll. For me they do serve one purpose, they are good for a hearty laugh at their total ignorance of the subject at hand.
If they had any proof of what they are saying, they would present it. Trolls don't, because they are simply blowing smoke.
Like tomekk, Millenia worked best at the time for me. I have no idea what my next car will be, because it hasn't been built yet. I do know from researching the internet, reading many magazines, and going to so many car dealers of a large variety of makes and models over a period of about three months, that nothing even comes close to Millenia for bang for the buck right now. Next time it will have to be something else, as this is the last year for Millenia. That's too bad, because with a moderate update, including a slightly larger V-6 to please the hot rod crowd, it is fully competitive with the $30000 group of cars.
#1534 of 4030 So the question is...
Mar 25, 2002 (9:11 am)
What studies do you know of, Speed33, that prove your point? You discount CR and Carpoint, yet you don't offer an example of a reliability survey done right. Instead, you say that anecdotal evidence should be the final arbiter. That only gets us back to where we were with your first post. If my friend has an Accord with a bad trans at ~70k, then all Accords are not worthy? With that viewpoint it looks like you should be posting on every single topic here, because I have not not seen a flawless car-line yet.
#1535 of 4030 30000 mile servicing is it necessary
Mar 25, 2002 (4:32 pm)
I hope that we can move on to other topics. I mean I did research also and the millenia is reliable but it seems that as milage increases so the potential for costly repairs, as with other cars but the millenia seems to be a higher on average. Anyways my 99 S has 35,200 miles on it. I never did the 30,000 mile service, instead when it reached 30,000 miles I looked at the sheet on what additional recommened service and got (1) The transmission completely flushed and cleaned and fluid replaced-129.00 (2)air filter replaced-22.40 (3)oil change (synthetic)53.00. I went to NTB and did a 4 wheel alignment as well as a balance and rotation. I was wondering is it neccessary to get this service done and what will they do at the dealership that will be essential in maintain the normal functioning of my car? All responses are really needed, because I could use the money for this service to fix my cracked windshield.
Mar 25, 2002 (5:52 pm)
I don't have my manual handy, but I'd say just do those things listed in the manual a la carte (don't go for the expensive dealer's 30K service with a lot of unnecessary things bundled in to rip you off) - you should be fine AND covered for the remainder of warranty.
I'm curious which oil weight you used?