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Mazda Millenia, Sedan
Jan 11, 2002 (11:40 am)
"Ever read a review done by a major publication about the Millenia?"
Yes I have. I researched the Millenia and several other cars thoroughly. I have printouts of many tests, as well as frequency of repair reports. The result of all of them is that the Millenia has been excellent, but a very well kept secret. After all the research, test drives of several brands, and dealer experiences, I made my choice a 2001 Millenia "P". Of all the cars I studied before buying, I found the least complaints about the Millenia by both owners and testers. The only repeated complaint is the result of many people that are looking for hot rods, not sport sedans.
My only reason for rejecting the "S" is that I do not need the additional power of the supercharger, and therefore saw no reason to spend the extra $2000, or take on the extra maintenance of that engine. My "P" also runs happily on 87 octane fuel, a big no-no with the "S".
I think if Mazda had promoted the Millenia with a good advertising campaign, and given it the up front floor space it deserves, it would have become a top selling car. On the other hand, we would not then have been able to get the fantastic deals we got on our cars.
#1172 of 4030 that was my point
Jan 11, 2002 (11:47 am)
#1173 of 4030 2001 MM S Pulling to the right (follow up from mgs 1118)
Jan 11, 2002 (3:41 pm)
Finally the dealer replaced the alloy rim with no question ask under warranty. By the way NEVDRANI, responding to your message# 1119, it is alloy rim not chrome. After installing new rim, took for test drive, big different from before but still feel a bit pulling to the right. Took it to Dunlop tire dealer to check for radial pull, they swap front tires, it seems doing better. I will try it for a few more day to see if problem been solved. Hey TOMEKK, thank you for your input on "smoother transmission", my MM had 5300 miles so far, hopefully it will behave positively like yours when it reach 6300 miles.
#1175 of 4030 Follow-up on message# 1147
Jan 13, 2002 (9:13 am)
Test drive my car for 2 days, so far still pulling to the right especially at low speed;
It is not the tires, what else is wrong with this
car? Alignment was done back on December 12,2001;
would the wobble rim affect the adjustment or
sent wrong data to the computer. or could it be cause by a defective caster, strut or spring? This wobble tire
was mounted at rear when they were doing the alignment.
Very frustrating experience, can anybody help?
#1176 of 4030 '01/'02 Millenias
Jan 13, 2002 (4:17 pm)
I have a '01 Millenia S, ownership experience has been lovely to date. The improvements in the '01/'02 Millenias were on key, the front & rear sway bars reduce body roll tremendosouly. The '01/'02 literally drive like an entirely different car when compared to its predecessors.
On average, I have noticed new car consumers gripe about the following feature based "deficts" the Millenia has over its competing models:
Horsepower (this is biggest of the three gripes)
4spd automatic transmission
With the exception of the above, the Millenia's build quality and use of technology is up to par and even exceeds the standards of its competion. Believe me, my comments are based on actual inspections and several test drives.
Performing a pound for pound comparison of the '01/'02 Millenia over cars in the likes of the: Acura 3.2TL, Nissan Maxima, Ifiniti I35, Cadillac Catera, BMW 3 Series and say VW Passat; will easily demonstrate that the Millenia is a prime contender.
Now I will briefly address two of the "deficits" I listed above.
A five speed automatic (manumatic) is purely a selling gimmick; less than 10% of purchaser rely on using the manumatic feature or gears other than "D" for daily driving.
The Millenia S use what is called a Centrifugal Supercharger, which is not designed to be a rev-happy engine at low RPMs. However, its 210hp will out-run cars like the TL, I35, MAX, etc when the tach reachs 3000RPMs with ease. (been there, done that) This is what performance enthusiasts really like about the Centrifugal Supercharger. Power delivery on a Centrifugal S/C doesn't display power-output exhaustion either, a common deficit with normally aspired engines. (TL, MAX, PASSAT etc)
Cars like the TL SType, and Maxima SE have like 250-260 HP but aren't hardly fast & furious! Take one for a test drive if you haven't; I was taken by surprise to experience how poorly thier engine delivers all "that" horsepower. All this, "let's see how much, non-deliverable horsepower we can make" game that auto manufactures are playing is a sad joke folks! Here's prime example on how horsepower numbers can be miss leading, the Subaru WRX with only 226hp and a 6000RPM fuel cut-off will run circles around 260hp Max SE 6spd any time of the day.
Bottom line up front, if you recently purchased a Millenia, you made economically sound decision and have also purchased a really reliable vehicle.
Oh yeah, if resale value is a major issue to you, just lease a Millenia.
#1177 of 4030 Lack of GPS in Millenia / resale
Jan 14, 2002 (6:40 am)
I love those GPS systems... until I have to pay for them. I just have a fundamental problem paying $2000 for replacement for $10 worth of maps. It only makes sense if you're gadget addict AND money is no object.
Resale value on Millenia should be measured from actual purchase price ($26K in my case), and not from sicker ($32.5K in my case) as all the car magazines and web sites (including Edmunds) seem to do.
acabral1, what the heck is the "power-output exhaustion"?
P.S. To Pat, our all-powerfull host: is the word "heck" considered an obscenity by Edmunds? BTW, could you please publish a list of words we shouldn't use I'm asking so that I know what is and is not allowed - and for practical reasons, I presume list of all allowed words would be rather long...
#1180 of 4030 New Millenia forum
Jan 14, 2002 (11:49 am)
Per Pat's sugestion I have setup a discussion topic comparing the MM to anything.
What can I say - unlike most we are passionte about our cars.