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Mazda Millenia, Sedan
Nov 30, 2001 (1:37 pm)
I don't care what anyone says...I didn't even consider the TL when I was looking for a new car. I'll be 22 in February...my 2001 Millenia S is my 4th Mazda. I started out with a 91 Protege DX (Awesome car...never had any problems with it), then I bought a 94 626 LX (not very reliable...but had a lot of features), then I made the mistake of leasing instead of buying a 99 Millenia Premium. So far I am really enjoying having the S over the 2.5 L engine. The Millenia to me just seems much more refined than the TL. Plus you don't see 20 Millenias at the stop light. Both of my Millenias were the two-tone White/Sand Mica Paint. I love the auto-tilt away steering wheel (TL doesn't have...always impresses my friends). The seats are very comfortable. When I saw the 2001 model I just had to get out of my lease early. This time I am buying. I always get compliments on the car...most people think that it is a Lexus. Acura will most likely never get any business from me. I plan to keep this car about 5-6 years, then move to a Mercedes or maybe a Lexus. I'm not worried about the depreciation...I love the car...if I loose more money on it, oh well! At least I'm driving something different and it's what I want!
Dec 01, 2001 (1:51 pm)
I got about 27 mpg on all highway on a recent trip, which I was pretty pleased with, but the city driving really takes it toll on the MPG. I bet I am lucky to get 20 most tanks. It is a fairly heavy car with a semi small V6 so it just has to work a little harder I guess.
#1040 of 4030 I just remembered why I don't like to post on the internet
Dec 01, 2001 (5:35 pm)
You can't make a statement without someone taking it personally (yes I work for C&D - you got me). Truth be known, I have bought two new Mazdas in the last 10 years - still have one (98 MPV). I like Mazdas (Japanese ones - not sure about the Ford versions). Almost bought a Millenia twice - back in 95 and again recently when I decided on the TL. Couldn't do it in the end for reasons I gave earlier. Please remember that where you live has a lot to do with the deals you can get and the number of similar cars on the road. For example, around here (N Florida), there seem to be more new Passats than new TLs. I think price is a major reason - and the Passat is a nice car (almost bought one). I just don't trust VW quality - not yet. I was burned by VW repairs in the 80s - owned 2 Golfs, a Jetta and a Sciroco.
You all made some good points on the Millenia - some of the same reasons I bought the 98 MPV - it was $9k less than sticker and it was fully loaded including leather. Problem is that now it isn't worth much and they are very hard to unload. I know because I traded in an MPV once (a 91 with low miles) and even though it was in meticulous condition with low miles, I got almost nothing for it. I presume you Millenia owners will fully enjoy your cars until that moment - and that's OK since you presumably got a better deal to start with.
As far as price being inconsequential, I am speaking to the price difference not the price.
BTW - The price differential between the Mazda and Acura are virtually nil, especially over 5 years. The exotic super car is slightly more I'd say. And yes - I have had several compliments but I'm not out to impress anyone so it doesn't matter.
#1041 of 4030 jdigeorgio
Dec 01, 2001 (6:30 pm)
Nobody takes anything personally, we're having very civilised discusion... it's a free country, you buy whatever car you like (and can afford )
Now, when it comes to impressing folks - I believe that brands like Acura and Lexus have been INVENTED to impress. Mazda Millenia is just the opposite, it's a "impression sleeper". Honestly speaking, I could've afforded TL-S, or Lexus GS300 (well, this would be stretching a little), but one of the factors in favor of Millenia was that it is more humble brand (and I don't like to spend money). Much less to get keyed in the parking lot - what happened already twice in 10 months to my buddy's Mercedes E430.
Enjoy your TL! Your choice - I'm sure - was right for you, just like mine was right for me.
BTW, C&D is pretty good publication. Good job!
#1042 of 4030 Fog light problems.
Dec 02, 2001 (8:31 am)
Has anyone had any problems with there fog light.That means a new millenia or an older model.If you have please let me know what you did to resolve it.I'd appreciate any help in this area.
Dec 02, 2001 (10:12 am)
First off, this sure is a friendly discussion group, so I'll risk going off topic here a bit.
I need some suggestions on a car for my dad. I took my dad to John Eagle Acura in Houston to look at some TL and CL but he wants a full size car and started gazing at a 2002 RL. Well the salesman worked his magic and we got to test drive the RL. The first problem was a loud exhaust note, I was in the back seat. My 2nd complaint, is when my dad floored it, it was a demo car, the shifts weren't as smooth as I'd expect a Flagship car would be. I've been digging like a mad man through my piles of C&D magazines for an issue on the RL but I just cant find it.... yet.
Jdigeorgio, what is your opionion on the 2002 Acura RL? Why are RLs so unpopular? Acura realy needs a good V8 is my guess.
Did you know they have the On-Star system now too? LoL, I almost busted out laughing in the car when i saw that.
And back to the Millenia S, I have to admit, They are sexy!! I find myself staring at their lines like some page off of a skin magazine. I am just not bought by the reliability of Mazdas and Nissans. I have a habit of going around town and asking mechanics what they consider the most reliable Jap cars. Most put Toyotas and Hondas first and the Mazdas and Nissans in the back seat.
Dec 02, 2001 (5:28 pm)
In regards to your question on the 2002 TL: I love the engine and the transmission. The engine just sings like nothing else I have ever driven. Everything just feels well built. Overall, I think it is a superb value. The TL-S is too harsh for me - the ride is stiff and the seats much less comfortable. I would only recommend it to the die-hard enthusiast. And you can't really bargain on the S model - at least not when I was looking. Again, I think the base TL is worth the extra cost over a loaded Accord - I know some will strongly disagree with this and the Accord is a fine car if the extra 2-3 grand makes a difference (and it will with many folks). In all, I recommend the TL highly.
#1045 of 4030 I thought this was a .....
Dec 03, 2001 (10:16 am)
MAZDA Millenia discussion group????
#1046 of 4030 2.5L Gas Mileage
Dec 04, 2001 (3:35 am)
I too, was disappointed in the 2.5L gas mileage (18-19mpg in city) when I first purchased my 2000 Millenia. I had previously owned a Ford Probe GT with the same Mazda 2.5L engine and routinely got 22 mpg in the same driving habits. I know the Millenia is heavier, so I was not expecting that high; however I was still a bit surprised at my results. What I did learn after a few tankfuls is this engine will deliver better mileage when driven harder. I started to accelerate faster and reach 4th gear quicker and saw my mileage improve to 20-21 mpg on the same city driving...maybe this will help others - by the way...I love my Millenia - others are amazed when I got so much new car for <$20K...it is definitely a fine vehicle - not like every camcord out there...
Dec 04, 2001 (5:48 am)
Do you find any difference when using different grades of gasoline? Interesting that you get better mileage when driving harder. I haven't tried that yet. It is kind of funny how my driving style changes based on the car. My Protege I love to flog, where as the Millenia ride and environment is so plush comparatively, I tend to not drive very aggressively so I can savor the experience more! It is my wife's car so I don't get to drive it as often as I would like.