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Re: downshift [elroy5] by dudleyr
Jul 21, 2007 (6:49 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 21, 2007 9:53 am)

I submit that I can probably get my automatic to downshift faster than you can push in the clutch, and change gears manually. And never have to put down my coffee cup.
 
Naah the automatic will take a second to decide if you are really serious, then it will unlock and then downshift. Besides since the stick is geared shorter, weighs less and has no torque converter it probably won't even need to downshift.
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Re: don't bet on it! [bristol2] by yury
Jul 21, 2007 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: bristol2 (Jul 21, 2007 10:42 am)

i thik this rebuttle needs refinement:)
 
if we're talking drag racing, stick shifts are not faster bacause you make your gear selection better. they are faster (as far as i understand) because there's no torgue converter which is less efficient. in fact i can asure you the auto will pick better shift points in this type of test it just knows the engine better and has more precision.
 
now, when you mash the gas on a half-decent auto it will kick down faster than you shifting. machines are just faster than humans
 
your gear selection on a manual will only give you advantage if you plan ahead and downshift in advance or want to stay kicked down for a long while, which is probably more like racing situation.
 
shifting in advance requires good timing. if you're too late you missed the opportunity. however you will not downshift a mile in advance because it's loud and sucks gas that way. in my 8 years of stick shift experience i basically rarely doenshifted in advance...cause most of the time i was too lazy planning ahead...it was just commute, not a race for a price
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Re: downshift [dudleyr] by yury
Jul 21, 2007 (7:30 pm)
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Replying to: dudleyr (Jul 21, 2007 6:49 pm)

a second to decide? what have you been driving?
 
i suggest you take your stop watch and measure your manual shifts and an the auto.
 
even my Malibu kicks down quite quick. the owners manual gives you some simle guideine to let the tranny know of your intent - mash it halfway - one gear down, much it all the way - 2. or something like that. works quite reliably.
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Honda Accord V6 auto by rpac
Jul 22, 2007 (9:26 pm)
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I'm the new kid on the block (73) true! And I just purchased a new Accord. In the past 3 years I have driven both the 4 and 6 cyl Accords. Then one day I dropped by a Lexus dealer. Wrong! I bought a 07 RX350. By the way it is 6 inches shorter than the Accord. Anyway I was told that I had to warm the car up for at least 5 minutes in the morning before trying to shift into gear, (hey, I live in L.A. and not at the North Pole). Once I did, I got the usual 'bump' from the tranny in first gear. The car uses premium gas only. Oil changes are $130. Power steering noise and problems, alternator same thing, a/c same thing again. I actually had to buy a mechanics stethoscope to prove to them that a whining sound I heard was coming from the alternator. Only then did they change the part. etc etc etc. Finally got tired of nickel and dimming and happily went back to the Accord. I don’t like the stiff ride cause I have a bad back, but Lexus is just a name and nothing else. Do any of you good people out there have any advice on the car I just bought? Any comments would be appreciated, and yes I got a terrific deal! Thanks everyone for hearing me out. I am just terribly disgusted and disillusioned with the over priced Lexus cars.
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Re: Honda Accord V6 auto [rpac] by blufz1
Jul 22, 2007 (11:32 pm)
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Replying to: rpac (Jul 22, 2007 9:26 pm)

Get some Goodyear assurance comfort tread tires to smooth the ride. Worked for me. Hope this helps.
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Re: don't bet on it! [yury] by bristol2
Jul 23, 2007 (6:12 am)
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Replying to: yury (Jul 21, 2007 7:24 pm)

There is no delay in a manual, if you are at highway speed, you shift to 4th from 6th or 3rd from 5th, depending on how many gears you have.
 
I drive my wife's automatic and when you push the gas all the way to the floor there is a delay..........................then there is a surge......................then, as soon as you get up to speed and are about to get to the front of the travel trailer in front of you, the auto shifts back up and you lose your 'oomph'.
 
I'd rather select my gear and stay in it for as long as I decide is necessary.
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Re: don't bet on it! [bristol2] by blufz1
Jul 23, 2007 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: bristol2 (Jul 23, 2007 6:12 am)

If you just learn to.....Scan...Identify...Predict...Decide...Execute...You don't even have to drop your french fry.
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Re: don't bet on it! [bristol2] by elroy5
Jul 23, 2007 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: bristol2 (Jul 23, 2007 6:12 am)

There is no delay in a manual, if you are at highway speed, you shift to 4th from 6th or 3rd from 5th, depending on how many gears you have.
 

 
There is a delay. The time it takes you to shift from 6th to 4th, or 5th to 3rd. That delay is longer than the delay of the automatic, especially if your not ready to do it (hand on shifter, and foot on clutch).
 
If you try to do it faster than the automatic, you will surely loose that fry.
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- by dudleyr
Jul 23, 2007 (3:40 pm)
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An automatic has an intermediate step going from 5th to third - fourth.

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