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given how slow many ATs are to kick down. The bigger issue with an automatic like the Accord (without the manumatic feature) is that it is very difficult to plan ahead. With a stick, you can be in the gear yo uneed before you need it, but with an automatic, they often won't shift until you have mashed the gas, and then it mulls it over for a while.
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Replying to: stickguy (Jul 21, 2007 9:56 am) Well, that only works if you can plan ahead. If a passing situation arises suddenly, I would probably be halfway around the car by the time you get into the gear you decide to shift into. With the Accord automatic, there is no mulling. Magazine reviewers have commented that the Accord automatic always seems to be in the right gear, or will get their quickly when prompted to do so.
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 21, 2007 10:17 am) There is a reason stick shifts are faster in 0-60 than automatics. Among them are that you choose your gear and choose your revs. I guarantee you that a stick shift will not only be in gear but will be in the right set of revs to pass before an automatic will. |
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Replying to: bristol2 (Jul 21, 2007 10:42 am) If you are in an automatic, it is as simple as pressing your right floot to the floor and steering. If you are in a manual, you might try to remember... 55 mph, can I go down all the way to second gear, or should I go to third? Most people will probably choose third just to be safe and avoid over-revving, but that might not have been the best choice as second might have been good for an extra-quick burst of 5-10 mph while third will chug for a second or two. I still prefer the stick though  , if you know what you want to do in advance you can be in the gear ahead of time and be gone while the automatic is still torque-converting 
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Replying to: bristol2 (Jul 21, 2007 10:42 am) |
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 21, 2007 9:53 am) Naah the automatic will take a second to decide if you are really serious, then it will unlock and then downshift. Besides since the stick is geared shorter, weighs less and has no torque converter it probably won't even need to downshift.
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Replying to: bristol2 (Jul 21, 2007 10:42 am) if we're talking drag racing, stick shifts are not faster bacause you make your gear selection better. they are faster (as far as i understand) because there's no torgue converter which is less efficient. in fact i can asure you the auto will pick better shift points in this type of test  it just knows the engine better and has more precision. now, when you mash the gas on a half-decent auto it will kick down faster than you shifting. machines are just faster than humans your gear selection on a manual will only give you advantage if you plan ahead and downshift in advance or want to stay kicked down for a long while, which is probably more like racing situation. shifting in advance requires good timing. if you're too late you missed the opportunity. however you will not downshift a mile in advance because it's loud and sucks gas that way. in my 8 years of stick shift experience i basically rarely doenshifted in advance...cause most of the time i was too lazy planning ahead...it was just commute, not a race for a price
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Replying to: dudleyr (Jul 21, 2007 6:49 pm) i suggest you take your stop watch and measure your manual shifts and an the auto. even my Malibu kicks down quite quick. the owners manual gives you some simle guideine to let the tranny know of your intent - mash it halfway - one gear down, much it all the way - 2. or something like that. works quite reliably. |
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I'm the new kid on the block (73) true! And I just purchased a new Accord. In the past 3 years I have driven both the 4 and 6 cyl Accords. Then one day I dropped by a Lexus dealer. Wrong! I bought a 07 RX350. By the way it is 6 inches shorter than the Accord. Anyway I was told that I had to warm the car up for at least 5 minutes in the morning before trying to shift into gear, (hey, I live in L.A. and not at the North Pole). Once I did, I got the usual 'bump' from the tranny in first gear. The car uses premium gas only. Oil changes are $130. Power steering noise and problems, alternator same thing, a/c same thing again. I actually had to buy a mechanics stethoscope to prove to them that a whining sound I heard was coming from the alternator. Only then did they change the part. etc etc etc. Finally got tired of nickel and dimming and happily went back to the Accord. I don’t like the stiff ride cause I have a bad back, but Lexus is just a name and nothing else. Do any of you good people out there have any advice on the car I just bought? Any comments would be appreciated, and yes I got a terrific deal! Thanks everyone for hearing me out. I am just terribly disgusted and disillusioned with the over priced Lexus cars.
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