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Re: Accord SE V6 acceleration on a gentle slope [blufz1] by aamixy
Jul 21, 2007 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: blufz1 (Jul 20, 2007 11:14 pm)

Thanks. I think that's a tricky situation. I need faster acceleration to merge onto another highway but the automatic transmission doesn't know this.
 
Shifting to D3 doesn't need to press the button so I think it should be fine. But it could shift to N without pressing the button.
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Re: Accord SE V6 acceleration on a gentle slope [aamixy] by blufz1
Jul 21, 2007 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: aamixy (Jul 21, 2007 9:10 am)

Really tricky with a french fry in your hand. Just depress the accelerator and it will downshift. Just my .02.
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downshift by stickguy
Jul 21, 2007 (9:47 am)
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either start accelerating sooner, or punch the gas harder to initiate the downshift.
 
Or even better, trade it in for a stick shift, and you can always be in the gear you wnat, when you want it!
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Re: downshift [stickguy] by elroy5
Jul 21, 2007 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: stickguy (Jul 21, 2007 9:47 am)

Or even better, trade it in for a stick shift, and you can always be in the gear you want, when you want it!
 
I submit that I can probably get my automatic to downshift faster than you can push in the clutch, and change gears manually. And never have to put down my coffee cup.
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don't bet on it! by stickguy
Jul 21, 2007 (9:56 am)
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given how slow many ATs are to kick down.
 
The bigger issue with an automatic like the Accord (without the manumatic feature) is that it is very difficult to plan ahead. With a stick, you can be in the gear yo uneed before you need it, but with an automatic, they often won't shift until you have mashed the gas, and then it mulls it over for a while.
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Re: don't bet on it! [stickguy] by elroy5
Jul 21, 2007 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: stickguy (Jul 21, 2007 9:56 am)

The bigger issue with an automatic like the Accord (without the manumatic feature) is that it is very difficult to plan ahead. With a stick, you can be in the gear yo uneed before you need it, but with an automatic, they often won't shift until you have mashed the gas, and then it mulls it over for a while.
 
Well, that only works if you can plan ahead. If a passing situation arises suddenly, I would probably be halfway around the car by the time you get into the gear you decide to shift into. With the Accord automatic, there is no mulling. Magazine reviewers have commented that the Accord automatic always seems to be in the right gear, or will get their quickly when prompted to do so.
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Re: don't bet on it! [elroy5] by bristol2
Jul 21, 2007 (10:42 am)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 21, 2007 10:17 am)

Well, that only works if you can plan ahead. If a passing situation arises suddenly, I would probably be halfway around the car by the time you get into the gear you decide to shift into
 
There is a reason stick shifts are faster in 0-60 than automatics. Among them are that you choose your gear and choose your revs.
I guarantee you that a stick shift will not only be in gear but will be in the right set of revs to pass before an automatic will.
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Re: don't bet on it! [bristol2] by benderofbows
Jul 21, 2007 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: bristol2 (Jul 21, 2007 10:42 am)

There are situations where automatics are faster than stick shifts. Say you are crusing down the road at around 55 mph, and a situation suddenly arises where you want to make a quick acceleration.
 
If you are in an automatic, it is as simple as pressing your right floot to the floor and steering.
 
If you are in a manual, you might try to remember... 55 mph, can I go down all the way to second gear, or should I go to third? Most people will probably choose third just to be safe and avoid over-revving, but that might not have been the best choice as second might have been good for an extra-quick burst of 5-10 mph while third will chug for a second or two.
 
I still prefer the stick though , if you know what you want to do in advance you can be in the gear ahead of time and be gone while the automatic is still torque-converting
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Re: don't bet on it! [bristol2] by blufz1
Jul 21, 2007 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: bristol2 (Jul 21, 2007 10:42 am)

But what about my french fry?
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Re: downshift [elroy5] by dudleyr
Jul 21, 2007 (6:49 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 21, 2007 9:53 am)

I submit that I can probably get my automatic to downshift faster than you can push in the clutch, and change gears manually. And never have to put down my coffee cup.
 
Naah the automatic will take a second to decide if you are really serious, then it will unlock and then downshift. Besides since the stick is geared shorter, weighs less and has no torque converter it probably won't even need to downshift.

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