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#19681 of 20255 Re: oil analysis on first oil change [jaxs1] by wise1

Feb 14, 2007 (8:59 pm)

Replying to: jaxs1 (Feb 10, 2007 8:49 am)
In the Aug.06 Honda Bulletin, Honda claims that the oil is black because they add MOLY. to the engine for the break-in oil in the engines at the time of manufacture. I do hope they are consistent in adding enough MOLY. at time of manufacturing to give the engine the protection it will need for 200k miles but I have serious doubts that it will last beyond 50K miles if that long. Please do let us know what the results are. I changed my oil in my 1992 Accord LX myself for about 200K miles and it never used ANY oil. I changed on a 3500-3700 interval. I sold it in December and it was still running good at 209K miles. Maintenance is the key to longivity IF the car is properly manufactured!!

#19682 of 20255 Oil analysis results: Honda does know! by tamu2002

Feb 16, 2007 (9:26 am)

Finally the results are in! A couple weeks ago I changed the oil in our new 06 Accord 4-cy VP for the first time. We bought it last Sep with 13 miles. The oil was changed at 6180 miles with the oil life monitor at 30%. Below is the Blackstone's report. It looks like Honda definitely knows what it's doing when it recommended leaving the first factory oil in for an extended time untill the monitor tells you to change it. The high MOLY content also seems to corroborate the previous poster's comments. Overall I'm glad I got the oil analyzed for peace of mind and kudos to Honda for an engineering job well executed.
 
For all you new owners out there, you can now safely do your first oil change late!
 
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Although we normally recommend a shorter interval for your first oil change, you can't go wrong following the oil life monitor that Honda has installed for you. This oil was somewhat abrasive withwear-in metals, but no damage has been done. Now that you've changed this oil out, you can expect to find lower wear metals (from new parts learning to work together) and silicon (from sand-casted parts) in the next sample. The TBN read 4.0, still active additive left. Those monitors seem to get more accurate as the engine ages. Try 6K again to monitor.
 
selected data:
TBN: 4.0
MOLY: 351 (universal average: 69)
Most of the other metals slightly above universal averages, with a few below averages;
Fuel: <0.5% Wather: 0 Antifreeze:0 insolubles: 0.2% SUS Viscosity at 210 F: 49.8 (should be 53-62) Flash point: 360 (should be >355)
 
Can someone tell me how to post a picture, so I can post the entire table?

#19683 of 20255 Re: Oil analysis results: Honda does know! [tamu2002] by blufz1

Feb 16, 2007 (11:55 am)

Replying to: tamu2002 (Feb 16, 2007 9:26 am)
Gig em TAMU! Great informative post. Assume this is similar Texas driving to mine so this is really helpful.

#19684 of 20255 Re: Oil analysis results: Honda does know! [tamu2002] by tallman1

Feb 16, 2007 (11:55 am)

Replying to: tamu2002 (Feb 16, 2007 9:26 am)
Can someone tell me how to post a picture, so I can post the entire table?
 
I believe it has to have a web address. The easiest way is to post the pic on your carspace page and link it from there.

#19685 of 20255 Re: Oil analysis results: Honda does know! [blufz1] by tamu2002

Feb 16, 2007 (12:46 pm)

Replying to: blufz1 (Feb 16, 2007 11:55 am)
Thanks. Actually I'm now in the rainy Seattle area but will soon move to southern Cal where the condition (0 elevation, mild temp, and dry) is perfect for great fuel economy
 
For this oil change period I drove very gently for proper break-in, which is why the oil was only at 30% after 6K plus miles. I was pleasantly surprised at the high TBN number at 4.

#19686 of 20255 Here is the table. by tamu2002

Feb 16, 2007 (12:53 pm)

http://www.carspace.com/tamu2002/Albums/tamu2002%27s%20Album/table.JPG/photo/v./- photo.jpg

#19687 of 20255 how do i remove door panels? by elmosso

Feb 17, 2007 (7:10 pm)

i need to remove my drivers' side door panel to pull out the window motor. a few months ago I tried when I put in new speakers but was only able to pry the bottom out. any tips?? thanks.

#19688 of 20255 Re: how do i remove door panels? [elmosso] by elroy5

Feb 18, 2007 (9:29 am)

Replying to: elmosso (Feb 17, 2007 7:10 pm)
There are two screws, one in the door grab handle, and one in the door latch handle. You will have to pry out the little covers to get to them.
 
If your car is an older model, the motor may not be the problem. The run channels may need to be cleaned out, and greased. Honda sells some special "Shin Itsu" grease specifically for this.

#19689 of 20255 Re: how do i remove door panels? [elroy5] by elmosso

Feb 18, 2007 (10:27 am)

Replying to: elroy5 (Feb 18, 2007 9:29 am)
thanks for the tip. i'll give it a try today. the dealership told me i needed new run channels and a new motor. i'll try this first. thanks!

#19690 of 20255 Re: how do i remove door panels? [elmosso] by elroy5

Feb 18, 2007 (10:49 am)

Replying to: elmosso (Feb 18, 2007 10:27 am)
If the dealership told you that you need new run channels, the new motor will not help much, if at all. Clean out the run channels with some alcohol and some Q-tips, then apply some of the grease. You will be amazed at the difference.
 
Honda Accords of the past had very tight run channels (to keep them from rattling). The problem comes when the run channels get old and dirty, the window has a hard time sliding through them. Good luck, but I don't think changing the motor will do any good.

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