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#3032 of 5565 I will try to be calm and cool here about Hyundai's reliability
Sep 25, 2002 (7:31 pm)
1) SOnata GLS-V6 , 84,000+ miles(1999 model). Only had a minor gas tank valve problem, took 1 hour to fix. That is all of the probloems that i have had. I also got the car(leather, sun/moonroof, cd,am/fm/cassette 120 watt stereo, 8 wya and height adjusting drivers seat)for under 18 grand brand new......... So, what do you think, unreliable?
2) 2001 Tiburon... 15 months old, 42,000+ miles, Zero Problems.
There you have it, Opinon vs Facts.
Opinions come from non-owners, because that is all they can give you. I could(if I had a scanner, or you were here) Show you proof...that = facts, to me anyways.
I looked at 15 Hyundai's before buying one, because I too(like you?) was leery of their reputation.
When I started to see 5 year old Accents with 75,000-113,000 miles on them , running daily w/o problems, and the 1992 Elantra (now has 223,000 on it) at college, running daily, 10 below or 110 above zero, I began to wonder if some of these horror stories were just that. Stories of
( mainly) myth.
They seem to be, judging from what I have just (honestly) told you.
Don't mean to sound gruff, just annoys me... Look at used Hyundais in parking lots or on used car dealership lots., see the mileage, check out the whole car, maybe even go drive one.
Take-Care. At least you said your piece w/o being a negative person, and I congratulate you on that.
Sorry If I came off like a grouch.
#3033 of 5565 Opinions and facts
Sep 25, 2002 (9:03 pm)
CR's reliability survey results are not opinions, but statistics (facts) gathered from thousands of car owners. There is a subjective element in the survey, because CR asks owners to judge whether a problem with their car is "significant". So it's not perfect. But it's a more meaningful survey, IMO, with their sample size of thousands of owners, than a sample size of two cars from one owner--which a statistician would tell you is "statistically insignificant". Not to say that it's insignificant to the owner of the two cars, of course. Just as the fact that my '01 Elantra has been reliable in its first two years is significant to me, but in the big picture it's just one car out of tens of thousands. What studies like CR's show is that the probability of a problem is still higher overall with a Hyundai than with makes like Toyota and Honda. That doesn't mean there aren't reliable Hyundais and unreliable Toyotas and Hondas out there. These surveys also show that Hyundai's reliability is improving, and as of the '01 model year it was getting close to the industry average for at least its latest models, the Elantra and Santa Fe. That's progress. Think about it... if Hyunidai's reliability record were as good as Toyota's and Honda's, and given the quality of Hyundai's current designs, what would happen? Hyundai would be able to raise its prices! And drop its long-term warranty. I like higher reliability, but I like the low prices and the long warranty too.
Sep 26, 2002 (11:52 am)
What most people don't realize about CR is that in addition to the surveys, they purchase their test vehicles, break them in, and drive them for several months, just like us (except we keep ours longer). I appreciate the longer test period before the report is published, unlike other magazines. AND I appreciate combining their info with that of the car mags, who may be less objective. I've heard people say to "ignore" CR -- why would anyone discard good information, when I can read it along with car mags? A smart car shopper reads all sources of information. It is CR's good review of the Elantra, in fact, that tipped my decision in favor of it.
#3035 of 5565 Consumer Reports annual survey result
Sep 26, 2002 (8:14 pm)
They don't claim it's any kind of reliability study(in academic sense) like the IQS study by JD Power. What they publish is graphical representation of arithmetic tallying of the survey. They cannot run statistics on the survey returns because the sample is not valid to begin with. Those are from CR subscribers who choose to fill out the form and mail it in. So even if we assume the population size is the subsciber base, you still can't do any meaningful study on them. To do any statistical analysis on survey data, the sample must be random sample of the population, all cars on the road in the US. Random sampling is the crux of statistics and whole another subject.
#3036 of 5565 Elantra mileage
Sep 27, 2002 (7:53 pm)
I read the post by vocus on Sep 23, 2002 regarding the mileage that he gets with his Elantra 5spd. I have been seriously weighing a Elantra GT against a Honda EX, and the mileage could be a signinficant factor for me. Is Vocus' 34 mpg in mixed driving and 40+ on long stretchs typical or a fluke? How are the rest of you doing in the fuel econo category with your 2001-2001 Elantra 5 5pds?
Sep 28, 2002 (7:35 am)
My 5-speed's mileage has been very consistent with EPA ratings, although my city driving MPG has been better than the rated 25 (I am usually around 27-30) and very close to the rated 33 highway. And I am a leadfoot around town and on the freeway -- typically 80 mph and higher. These are not the figures I would like, considering my last little car's mileage of always over 30 no matter what the driving. But I also remind myself that my Elantra has 35% more horsepower than Betsy II, so I am happy. P.S. That Civic EX is so expensive!
#3038 of 5565 Towing with elantra
Sep 28, 2002 (7:21 pm)
Anyone have any experience towing with occasional short distance (< 60 miles) towing of a light trailer or boat with their elantra?
#3039 of 5565 Hyundai Reliabilty
Sep 29, 2002 (8:34 am)
Just my own personal experience here. I used to drive a 99 Accent (leased) and had absolutely no problems at all over the 58K miles I drove her, and I will be honest, I was not the most loyal of oil changers. When I turned the car in, all the mechanics were in perfect working order according to the appraiser that checked it.
Hubby's 98 Accent with 60K Miles under its belt - and being driven by a man who likes to drive very aggresively - has had no problems whatsoever.
Reliability? Hyundai has sold me! And this from a woman that once owned an 86 Pony that was a piece of junk. I swore never to enter a Hyundai dealer ever again, but back in the fall of 98, my hubby convinced me to give them one more chance. Am I glad I did.
I now drive an 02 Elantra GT - almost 5K in her first month, and I absolutely adore her!
And bear in mind all the weather we have to deal with up here in Montreal. Only time my Accent didn't start was the day I left the lights on in the parking lot at work.
#3040 of 5565 Re: Towing with Elantra
Sep 29, 2002 (8:54 am)
I have an Elantra GT fitted with a Draw-Tite hitch that I use occasionnally to tow a light trailer (±375 lbs). The maximum gross weight of the trailer is 1200 lbs (trailer+load). I have used it on long distance hauls (500 miles+) without any problem whatsoever. I don't even feel the presence of the trailer.
#3041 of 5565 204meca...
Sep 29, 2002 (12:14 pm)
That wasn't me with the 5-speed Elantra. I own a Jetta. You confused me with another poster, but I know who you were talking about.