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Hyundai Elantra 2001-2006

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#2142 of 5565 New hopes for a 10 year warranty! by mauvas

Dec 09, 2001 (9:24 pm)

Buoyant, I really couldn’t agree more with you in the sense that Hyundai and Kia are challenging peoples perceptions of perceived bad quality of their brands, BY OFFERING a longer warranty. And that other well established manufacturers don’t need to play that game, since their products have a very strong “high quality” positioning or perception.
What I was trying to show was the following facts:
1. That I was very surprised when reading about Carpoint’s reliability report for all Elantra models since 1992. The Elantra model obtains a consistent score of 5/5 after 9 years. It is very important to understand hat those reports are based on today’s current and accumulated number of repairs for models manufactured in each year. Not only on the number of claims while the warranty was in effect.
2. Some people in this forum have been concerned about Hyundai’s long run capacity to fulfil its compromise with its customers, given the perception that Hyundai products seem not to have performed quite well in the past.
3. Then, having found that component categories like Accessories, steering and suspension, brakes, starting and charging, transmission and driveline, engine, air condition and heating, show a good longevity according with Carpoint, which obtains its Reliability Ratings from Auto Information Services (AIS), the nation's largest technical support service for the after market auto repair industry, I was suggesting that probably in the long run, giving these ratings, it could be expected that Hyundai wont have a significant number of warranty claims.
4. That contrary with popular beliefs, if we can rely on Carpoint’s sources, Hyundai products already are demonstrating that they were quite reliable, even those products manufactured 10 years ago, when the general perception for Hyundai was something similar to junk! I was very surprise that for a 1992 Hyundai Elantra, the reliability score is 5/5, meanwhile the same score for the BMW series 3 is 4/5, with significant problems in the engine, just to mention one example. (I didn’t have the time or energy to check the Honda Civic or the Toyota Tercel or Corolla.)
5. That’s why I was suggesting that those people who bought a 1992 Elantra and took care of the adequate maintenance program of their cars, could still have been enjoying a very reliable car 9 years later.
6. That giving these facts, it makes a lot of sense that Hyundai had adopted its 10 years warranty strategy, giving the real quality (not the perceived one) of its cars. Then I suppose that people at Hyundai know what they are doing.
7. And a final conclusion that I can draw today is that for us, owners of the new Elantra 2001 or subsequent years, it could give us some peace of mind knowing those numbers from Carpoint, which tell us a different story than the one we have usually heard from people who even never had own a Hyundai before.
I hope we can survive the annoying and little rattles -normal even in cars like BMW's- and the discrepancies between the IIHS and NHTSA air bags tests and in ten years check if Hyundai can survive its words!

#2143 of 5565 2002 Elantra GLS Highway RPMs & noise by tbone51565

Dec 10, 2001 (8:52 am)

I was looking at review of the Elantra GLS. One reviewer commented on the RPMs being 3,400 at 65 mph. That seems very high. Can a current owner comment on the RPMs you are experiencing at highway speeds. At 3,400 it seems like the engine would be winding up pretty high and be quite noisey. Thanks in advance for your feedback!

#2144 of 5565 RE:2002 Elantra GLS Highway RPMs & noise by browney

Dec 10, 2001 (9:03 am)

My 01 auto shows 2900rpm at 70mph and there is more road/wind noise at this speed than engine noise.

#2145 of 5565 Hyundai Strike by dougndo

Dec 10, 2001 (11:35 am)

See my post #1597 in the Sonata forum for the latest on work stoppages at Hyundai Motors. This could affect the availability of Elantras.

#2146 of 5565 carpoint's ratings by buoyant

Dec 10, 2001 (12:29 pm)

I've looked at those in the past too, but I remain very skeptical.
 
At one time when I frequented the Neon board and read countless complaints from [very annoying] owners of the 95 and 96 models, I went to check out the carpoint rating only to be blown away by the fact that the 95 Neon was rated significantly more "reliable" by them than the equivalent model year Toyota Camry.
 
Now, I'm NOT a Toyota fan, but that doesn't make a lot of sense. While I've never trusted Consumer Reports because of the half-butt way they conduct their surveys, I have been an avid follower of the research JD Power does (as they use statistically significant random sampling methods and contact actual owners by VIN).
 
And in their last few long-term dependability surveys (they contact original owners of 5 year old models for those), Toyota has always been at or very near the top and Hyundai has been far down the list.
 
Please understand I'm not knocking current Hyundai products, but I think anyone in the used car market expecting a '94 or '95 Hyundai to be as reliable or MORE reliable than the same year Toyota product may be in for a rude awakening.
 
I haven't yet been able to personally ascertain how those carpoint "reliability" indexes are determined, so until they make their methodology public, I won't be putting much faith in them.

#2147 of 5565 RE: Carpoint reliability by majorthomecho

Dec 10, 2001 (1:32 pm)

Buoyant, it seems to me that the data comes from reporting done by non-dealership owned repair shops.
 
And I think I read somewhere on the site that their TOTAL responses for ALL cars are in the neighborhood of 200,000 a year.
 
I believe this is less than the number of responses that either Consumer Reports or JD Powers receives.

#2148 of 5565 Tire PSI for the Elantra? by phillygls

Dec 10, 2001 (2:13 pm)

I wonder if anyone has noticed the Hyundai recommended PSI for the Elantra 15inch Michelin tires is 30psi when the tire sidewall read 44/45psi(?). Going with Michelins suggested PSI I filled my tires to 35psi and the vehicle seemed to ride and handle better but then everytime I take the vehicle in for scheduled maintenance the dealer reduces the pressure to below 30psi. The driver/passenger door req-labels state that the tire pressure should be 30psi but it seems strange that there's such a difference between Michelins PSI listing and Hyundai PSI listing. Any suggestions?

#2149 of 5565 I'm no tire expert, by claywaterfill

Dec 10, 2001 (2:19 pm)

but I believe the PSI on your sidewall is a maximum pressure. I read about this issue somewhere else and they said to go with whatever is stamped on the car. As they talk about in racing, changing the air pressure in your tires can have a huge impact on your car--even by just 1 pound--so that's why you feel the difference. Go with Hyundai's recommendation on this one.

#2150 of 5565 OTOH by claywaterfill

Dec 10, 2001 (2:21 pm)

It's your car. If you like the feel of 35 PSI, run 35. You may have to replace them more often, but go with what you like.

#2151 of 5565 Tire Pressure by csandste

Dec 10, 2001 (2:24 pm)

Mark Salem does a pretty good radio show in the Phoenix and St. Louis markets.
http://www.salemboysauto.com/faqs/faq-44.htm

"How much air should I carry in my tires?

There are three different places tire inflation information can be found. Your owners manual will deal with proper tire inflation, there may be a tag describing proper tire inflation procedures in the drivers door area, either on the door or on the jamb or there is inflation information on the sidewall of the tire. Don’t be surprised if all three don’t match.

The inflation information on the tire will describe the maximum inflation of that tire cold. This is the most that tire should ever be aired to. The owners manual may describe a slightly lower inflation number. Anywhere in between will be fine for any car or SUV or light truck. But remember this:

Using the higher inflation numbers (35-44 psi) will keep the tire cooler, give you better fuel economy but you will sacrifice ride quality. The ride of the car will be harsher than with softer tire pressures.

Using the lower inflation numbers (28-35 psi) will give you a soft, smooth ride but your tires will run hotter and your fuel economy will be between 1-5% less than with fully inflated tires.
I always inflate my customers tires to the maximum inflation figure written on the side of their tire. The only exception is a "Z" rated high performance tire, like ones on a Corvette, Camaro, 300ZX. I do not inflate them to their maximum of 44 psi, but use 35 psi as our upper limit on these tires. Otherwise the ride is way too harsh.

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