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Jul 31, 2004 (7:59 am)
I have a 2000 Alero, 4 door, v-6, with about 26,000 miles on it. Yesterday I was shocked to see several ripples on my front dash near the left side of the windshield. It appears that there is a gray plastic film on some kind of hard surface below it that has loosened from that base. Not only has it separated but it wrinkled. The area affected is about one foot long and about 2 inches deep. It looks bad. I am totally surprised about this event since I thought the dash was solid plastic. Evidently it is not. Also, the car is only 4 years old. I don't expect things like to happen until a car is about ten years old and usually on cheaper cars. My warranty is long gone and I am not sure how to fix this defect. The appearance really bothers me and I am very disappointed in Oldsmobile for this kind of defect. I would expect something like this to happen on a "Yugo" and not on an Alero. I will be in misery until I get it fixed and I wonder if I should keep the car to find out what other defects Oldsmobile has in store for me.
Jul 31, 2004 (10:33 am)
Post #2244 addresses this same problem:
red_alero Dec 10, 2003 3:56pm
I don't think this is a universal problem for all Aleros, though. Ours is a 2000 model, and the interior is still holding up well.
Aug 01, 2004 (9:45 am)
Does anyone know if there is a fuel filter change on the 3.4 Alero? It does not say so in my handbook, but I normally change them around 30,000 miles maximum. If there is, where is it situated and is there a pressure release switch to activate first?
#2446 of 3014 Re: Comments on Collector's Edition and GM 5 Year Protection? [expwyman]
Aug 02, 2004 (7:59 am)
I purchased number 363 of the final 500 Aleros in May 2004. The car has been absolutely perfect, not one little annoyance, squeak, rattle, etc. I gave the car a perfect JD Powers survey. I bought it from a multi-GM car franchise (CP Diver, Rehoboth Beach, Delaware) that has regulary demonstrated outstanding service and follow through. They have serviced my 96 Olds LSS for the past 40K or so miles, and it runs as good today as when I bought it new (85K miles later). I also bought an 03 Aurora from them, and it has had several warranty repairs (sunroof rattles, blown out BOSE stereo speaker delivered defective from the factory) that this dealer has taken care of to my utmost satisfaction. So, I do not have one worry about warranty repairs and service at all.
I am NOT the least bit concerned about the Alero's quality, and the no charge extended warranty beyond the normal 3 year, 36K miles warranty to 5 years, 60K miles was one of the main reasons I bought it over other GM cars I was considering. Because I will put less than 10K miles on this car annually, I purchased an additional one year warranty for $100 more, so I have 6 years, 60K bumper-to-bumper protection. I'll get to six years before 60K miles.
The car has been a blast to drive--great power from the V6, and I'm getting close to 29 mpg on the highway. The chrome wheels and the spoiler set this car off, and the Final 500 badging and monogramming on the leather seats and floor mats are first rate. I test drove the car one day after it was delivered to the dealer--not even cleaned up. When I returned from the test drive, there were a few lot lookers that wanted to drive it, but alas, they were too late as I bought it on the spot! I really like the satellite radio (very worth the cost and monthly charge to me). Fit and finish appears to be top rate, and the car is very quiet, and as I said above, free of squeaks and rattles. Not one peep even from the sunroof!
There are alot of Oldsmobile "fanatics" out there. I don't think you would ever have difficulty in selling one of the Final 500 in the future, since there are only 500 Aleros out of tens of thousands that have this color combination. I'm more than glad to share my positive experience with this car. Good luck, and as several of the folks on the Edmund's boards routinely say, "Buy and drive what you like". I'm glad I did.
Aug 02, 2004 (2:36 pm)
After reading #2244 and following his links on the same problem I am convinced that GM does not stand behind their product. No more GM cars for me. This is the first time anything like this has happened to one of my cars. It really makes me sick.
#2448 of 3014 RE: Warping Dash / Door Pads; GM Quality
Aug 02, 2004 (6:06 pm)
I had heard of the dash pad and door pad warping issue before I purchased my 2002. To this day I still think that it's just a few isolated instances. I am actually having my dash and one door panel replaced under warranty due to warping. Both were EXTREMELY minor (I actually thought the dealer would turn down my request to replace the stuff). I showed my service advisor and they got it in right away, but I am just waiting on parts. I am glad that the dealership is covering this because on the invoice I got after I left, the price the dealer is paying for the dash and the door panel together is just about $800, and remember, that's only factory to dealer pricing. I'm sure we would have to pay much more. Anyway, there are no other signs of warping on the other three door panels. Everything looks good. That's why I believe this is an isolated issue.
As for the recent talk about GM standing behind their product: that infuriates me. The people who complain about GM not standing behind their product are the people who have issues at 37 or 38K and still expect GM to cover their repairs. When they purchased their car they knew the warranty ended at 3 years / 36K miles, so why are they mad when GM won't cover repairs AFTER that time? I have had a few issues with my car and it seems the dealer is more than happy to help will all of them. I don't however expect them to help with any repairs past that 36K mark, because I didn't pay for an extended warranty. If you want them to assist after the bumper to bumper warranty time, then buy that extended warranty. If they went around doing "goodwill" repairs for everyone who had issues after 36K miles, they wouldn't be in business.
#2449 of 3014 RE: Fuel Filter Location
Aug 02, 2004 (6:19 pm)
The fuel filter is located near the gas tank under the evap canister. You can access it by lifting the rear of the car and looking to the front of the gas tank. Many repair manuals tell you to remove the evap canister before servicing the fuel filter, but it can be done without removal of the canister. To relieve the pressure from the system, start your car and let it reach normal operating temp. While its running, open the hood and take off the cover to the fuse relay box. With it still running, pull the relay for the fuel pump. The car will sputter a bit and then the engine will stop. It will be just like it's running out of gas. Make sure the car is on all fours before you do this. After you relieve the pressure of the fuel system, you can the jack up the rear of the car and start your project. Be careful not to twist the fuel lines when you're removing the fuel filter.
The manual doesn't state when to replace the filter, but I do it about every 30K too.
Aug 03, 2004 (6:26 am)
The reputation of a car manufacturer is based on the quality of their product. Sure there are certain components that one would expect that after the warranty period expires I would have no problem repairing and /or replacing at my expense. However there are other components like the premature warping of a dash at an extremely early time period is a pure indication of "bad" design. This sort of defect should be corrected by the manufacturer without question. I have had over 17 cars in my lifetime and none of them had problems like this (even GM cars) at an early age. To me this event is an indication of the bad reputation of a manufacturer. They know this is a bad design and are not willing to do anything about it. It is a shame to see American mfrs. going in this direction. It is no wonder that more and more Americans are buying cars from foreign Mfrs. who do not exhibit this adverse attitude. The American loyalty to American products is continuously disappearing from the market. Only the die-hards will hang on. I feel sorry for them. Therefore I strongly do not agree with you about your comments.
Aug 03, 2004 (7:15 pm)
Well, you can disagree with me, but this is not a widespread problem. I'm sure if you did a similar search on other forums, you would find something LIKE this...not the same exact thing, but something that COULD point to bad craftsmanship. That goes for Hondas, Toyotas, ect. I can easily put up with a few quality issues with a fun to drive vehicle, which I think the Alero is. I'm glad I didn't purchase a bland Civic, Corolla, or Camry, even though they MAY have less issues in 200K miles than my Alero.
#2452 of 3014 RE: Fuel Filter Location [jtrujillo86]
Aug 09, 2004 (1:18 pm)
Thanks for this Jeremy,
I took the car to our local Mieneke shop and they changed the fuel filter and charged $42 which I didn't think was bad. Money well spent I reckon!
I agree with your comments on these cars. They are great value IF bought at say 1 to 2 years old. I find the steering too light and the road holding could be tighter, but then again, with the terrible roads we have in Kansas City and Missouri, I wouldn't want the suspension any harder. Oh for Citroen's hydropneumatic suspension! I agree with your comments too about the blandness of Jappo cars. Their interiors are Germanic to say the least. Lots of hard plastic (Altima for example). Their second-hand values are way over the top. Our Alero 3.4 cost $10700. It was 14 months old with 22,000 miles on the clock. We have ABS, Traction, Auto box, tire warning light, oil change and vehicle service warning lights. The lights stay on after you switch off the engine.....and so on. We had one or two niggly problems when we bought it. The indicators failing and the drivers central locking, but it is fine now. My wife loves it. The driver's seat has electirc asjustment and lumbar control too.
I wish though GM would use their excellent 2.5 DOHC European engine though instead of the 3.4. It has a great turn of power and also develops 170 BHP like the 3.4. It can be mounted in-line or transversely. I also wish GM would lower their gearing too. Directly we hit an incline, the speed tails off too much, which involoves too many downchanges for my liking. Their European cars are renowned for thier tall gearing, which to me, robs the car of its performance potential. But there you are, we all know how cars should be built.
Thanks once again.