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Oldsmobile Alero, Sedan
Aug 15, 2003 (8:32 pm)
I think it's so hilarious how you (Reg) and everyone else bickers about your differences. You HATE GM engines, it seems, but continue to post messages on GM boards...not that you're not welcome (I think you're helpful in some ways), I just thinks it's funny. Just a thought...
P.S. Thanks all Alero owners. The car I was looking at sold, but I think I may go with a 2002 or 03 for the 2.2 Ecotec. I'll stay away from the 3.4 because I hear they have the same manifold problems as my 3.1 and I can't afford to shell out 750 bucks again for that problem.
P.P.S. Hey Reg: not trying to start anything, but I contacted a local Oldsmobile dealer and inquired about the reliability and longevity of the QUAD 4. He said, "Those have been pretty much bullet proof. We hardly see any of those for any defect...just for normal maintenance".
Aug 16, 2003 (7:21 am)
If the engine is the real "Quad 4" which was actually the 2.3 liter engine built from 88-95, I would avoid it at all costs. They may have been fairly reliable, but were not very refined at all. I've had a couple of Alero loaners with the 2.4 liter "twin cam" four and while I know it is just a reworked version of the Quad 4, it was a decent engine. Still not as refined as a Honda or Saab four, but it does make pretty decent power. Having said that, if I were in the market for an Alero, I'd go for one with the V6. The V6 is more powerful and more refined and gets nearly as good mileage as the four does. The V6 only added about $600 to the price of the car when new so there should be a plentiful supply of used Aleros with the V6.
jt, if you can afford it, I would try to swing a new Alero. With all the discounts on Oldsmobiles, you could probably get a base model Alero pretty cheap. And you'd have a brand new car with a 5 year/60K warranty.
Aug 16, 2003 (9:55 am)
I can't afford it. The only reason I'm looking into a car now is because the Malibu that I have is constantly in the shop. On top of my monthly car payment, I can't afford to pay to get her fixed every month. The only reason I'm looking at the Alero's (other than the looks, both inside and outside) is the resale value is horrible, which is a plus in my case. I can get an 02 with the 2.2 Ecotec with 24K miles and everything except leather and a sunroof for about 11K. It's totally worth it in my view.
Aug 16, 2003 (9:59 am)
I currently use Valvoline Durablend 5W 30 in the fall and winter and Valvoline Durablend 10W 30 in the spring and summer in my Malibu. I saw a commercial for Mobil 1 Synthentic and it claimed that after running a car for 200K miles, the interior of the engine showed little or no wear whatsoever. What do you guys think? If I get an Alero, I'd like to try it. What does everyone use in their 2.4, 2.2, or 3.4's?
Aug 16, 2003 (12:37 pm)
That is one good thing about an Olds if your buying used as you can get a heck of a deal on one. Several here have 02s with the 2.2 liter engine and they like it alot. I use 10W30 in my Intrigue year round. I considered synthetic at one point, but really didn't see enough evidence to warrant the extra expense. I typically change my oil in 3-4K intervals despite the manual saying it can go uo to 7500 miles. Good luck with the 02 Alero. I think you'll like it much better than the Malibu.
#2144 of 3014 I don't have it yet...
Aug 16, 2003 (9:28 pm)
The one I was planning on getting got sold. Now I'm back to looking for the best deal. I'm hoping that Monday will bring me a new (new to me) Alero!
P.S. - About the synthetic thing - When I switched to Durablend, there was a lot of people saying there were bennifits, while others had their doubts. I would much rather pay a little more (for me, it comes to about $8.00 more) for something that MAY possible work, but never hurt, than save a little and never know if that extra money could have paid off. The way I see it, the automobile engine is a man-made object. I would much rather have the stuff that lubricates it be man made, other than from the earth. The only thing I use in my car that's natural (or natural to a point) is mid-grade Conoco gasoline.
#2145 of 3014 jtrujillo86
Aug 17, 2003 (5:07 pm)
Oldsman is right. The newer 2.3Ls are ok. That said, if you can grab an Ecotec powered Alero, you will get more refinement and better mileage.
#2146 of 3014 One interesting fact -
Aug 17, 2003 (9:41 pm)
Did you guys know that the 2.2 Ecotec engine was co-designed by the Lotus car company? I thought that was pretty cool...
#2147 of 3014 jtrujillo86
Aug 18, 2003 (4:43 am)
Yup. GM used to own Lotus and still does design work with them. Ecotec is a very cool little engine with lots of pep. The revised version in the 04 Bu pumps out 145hp, pretty decent for 2.2L..
Aug 21, 2003 (3:56 pm)
co-designed is a stretch. Lotus pretty much did the whole thing, just like Porsche designed the new Harley Davidson v-twin.
All I've ever read and seen about quad4's is that they are loud, rough, and blow head gaskets a plenty. I drove Calais and Achievas with the Quad4 and they sounded like lawnmowers. The Twin Cam 2.3 may have been a bit of an improvement, but it was still not as good as most 4 cylinders.