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Replying to: stlpike07 (Nov 09, 2007 12:18 pm) Of Course! Nothing wrong with that. My dad gets bored with cars and changes every couple of years. (02 CR-V, 03 Accord, 05 Accord, 07 Civic - see a pattern?  ) For those who do their best to spend as little as possible, keeping an old car that costs, say, $200 every quarter at the most to keep running makes more financial sense. |
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Replying to: elroy5 (Nov 09, 2007 2:13 pm) |
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Replying to: elroy5 (Nov 09, 2007 2:13 pm) You've been here for a long time and you can do the math. (1) If you trade in after about 5 years = 19.5K for a new 2008 Camry LE - trade in value for 2003 LE w/ 50K miles (10-11K?---edmunds = $10200) + 1 set of tires and brakes after 3rd or 4th year + minor repairs. (2) If you trade in after about 10 years = 19.5K for a new 2008 Camry LE - trade in value for 1998 LE w/ 100K miles (3-4K?---edmunds = $3400) + 2 to 3 set of tires and brakes + minor repairs + possible major repairs b/c you have no warranty from year 6 to 10 (Hopefully it will be less than 1.5K that you save instead of trade it in after 5 years). Actually, there' re people who are willing to pay ~1K just to extend the warranty to 7 years.
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Hi All: Friday,I had the opportunity to visit a Honda dealership. (A friend was dropping off his Civic for service,and I had the opportunity to look at some of the vehicles in the showroom.) The 2008 Honda Accord is very nice, and it is a big improvement over the 2003 Honda Accord that I owned prior to my 2007 Camry. But, there is still a "Big Issue" with the comfort of the seats. The seats seem to be higher than the 2003, but they are VERY HARD compared to the Camry. (The 2008 Accord had cloth seats, and my Camry has leather). I like the new Accord, and I would consider purchasing one in 2010, if Honda would make softer seats. I spend a lot of time in a vehicle and I need comfort! I do not want "road feel" on my bottom! Something very interesting is happening with Honda dealers in Northern New Jersey. They are no longer doing New Jersey inspection. (Too many problems with the State!) My friend had to take his Civic to a service station in town for the inspection, and then have his vehicle serviced at the dealer for specific Honda issues! (He would not use "state run inspection stations" because he feels that they abuse vehicles in the inspection process.) Best regards to everyone. ------ Dwayne  
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Replying to: djm2 (Nov 10, 2007 5:26 am) That said, sometimes cloth versus leather can also make a difference. The leather seats in my 1998 Accord have a softer feel to them compared to cloth trimmed seats in Accords from the same year. The seats in my TL are firmer than the Accord's, and I love it. It adds to sportiness (check out any sports/performance car, they will have firmer seats). |
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Replying to: gooddeal2 (Nov 10, 2007 4:05 am) For another buyer who decided to go 10-years, and manages to sell the car for $2.5K, the cost would be $19K. We're looking at $7K in savings. Compared to replacements at 50K miles, 100K miles will basically add another set of tires, batteries, potentially bulbs potentially brakes (original front brakes in my 1998 Accord lasted 90K miles, and rear brake pads were replaced at 132K miles, and at 183K miles, those were the only brake pad replacements I have had to make). No modern car should demand $6K-7K in repairs between 50-60K miles, much less the cars that set the benchmark in durability. BTW, one of the reasons I can afford to have two cars in my garage (06 TL w/30K miles, 98 Accord w/183K miles) is that it has cost next to nothing in maintenance which wouldn't have been possible if I were still making payments on it. The insurance cost goes down too.
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Replying to: gooddeal2 (Nov 10, 2007 4:05 am)  Nice try, but the numbers don't add up.
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Replying to: robertsmx (Nov 10, 2007 10:37 am) Tax? We only pay tax on the diff. in most states. So, 19.5K - 8.5K = 11K + 6% tax = $11,660 (not 13K). 90K to replace brakes? You're lucky. I replaced my Avalon brakes at 38K miles, Corolla at 40K miles, Camry at 45K miles, and G35 re-surface rotor at 10K miles. I like to change my tires sooner even if it' in o.k condition b/c I live in the Northeast. |
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Replying to: elroy5 (Nov 10, 2007 11:09 am) Well, invoice for '08 LE = ~19.5K - 500 cash = ~19K I don't add tax here b/c we have diff. tax rate, tax credit on trade or no tax at all. Nice try, but the numbers don't add up. Show me your number...the only thing you can disagree w/ me is the trade in value which I'm waiting for the auction number. |
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Replying to: gooddeal2 (Nov 10, 2007 11:52 am) About $800. This includes timing belt/water pump, front brake pads, battery and a headlamp may have been replaced ($12). In fact, with 183K miles now, it has had only one repair... a cracked radiator hose. That happened around 152K miles or so. If someone buys a new car, for that span, the cost would be several times over (and $800 may actually be equal to taxes paid). And we're assuming the person doesn't finance, but buys on cash. Otherwise don't forget to add interest. One of the appeals of buying an Accord or Camry is that you don't have to consider replacing it after 50K miles from fear of repairs. In fact, that was something I told the finance guy when picking up my Accord ten years ago. He was trying to sell extended warranty... told him, if I felt the need for it, I wouldn't be buying a Honda. Saved a grand in the process.
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