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Re: Camry or Accord? [thegraduate] by blufz1
Nov 08, 2007 (11:05 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 08, 2007 11:00 pm)

Good to see you on,grad. Hope school is going well. Really,when you think of all the money we spend on repeated car purchases over a lifetime it can exceed a one time purchase of a home.
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Re: Camry or Accord? [thegraduate] by stlpike07
Nov 09, 2007 (1:15 am)
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Many people aren't as lucky with a 12 year old car.
 
I guess I just like to drive new cars for a few years and then get a new car. I like everything being under warranty and usually get bored with a car after a few years.
 
When I was younger I dropped about $4,500 into a 1992 Accord, and I only owned that car for about two years.
 
Whats the point of having money if you're not going to spend it...doesn't have to be on a car...and yes, planning for retirement is also important so thats where a lot of money goes too.
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Re: Camry or Accord? [stlpike07] by gooddeal2
Nov 09, 2007 (4:00 am)
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Replying to: stlpike07 (Nov 09, 2007 1:15 am)

When I was younger I dropped about $4,500 into a 1992 Accord, and I only owned that car for about two years.
 
Yes, one of my friends just had her 2001 TL w/ 65K miles head gasket replaced. She needs to pay from her own pocket b/c there's no warranty.
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Re: Camry or Accord? [stlpike07] by robertsmx
Nov 09, 2007 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: stlpike07 (Nov 09, 2007 1:15 am)

I don't have a 12 year old car, but do drive a 10 year old Accord now with 183K miles.
 
I considered replacing it four-five years ago with 100K miles on it. Then again around 150K with me "anticipating" repair expense on an old car. I figured, both times, that if there comes a time when I had to spend $300 or so on repairs every month, it would make sense to just buy a new car.
 
I did buy an '06 TL but the Accord still gets more than half of the miles I drive each month. If I drove about 1000-1200 miles and didn't take my cars on road trips, I could have done away without the TL and saved hundreds/month while doing so.
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Re: Camry or Accord? [robertsmx] by bug4
Nov 09, 2007 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: robertsmx (Nov 09, 2007 8:34 am)

robertsmx -- perhaps it wont' be appropriate on this thread (but maybe on the TL v. Accord thread). I would be very interested to read a critical evaluation of your 06 TL. What do you like, what don't you like? The more critical (both good and bad), the better . . .
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Re: Camry or Accord? [gooddeal2] by elroy5
Nov 09, 2007 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: gooddeal2 (Nov 09, 2007 4:00 am)

The chances that a 10 year old car would need repairs that come close to the expense of a new car, are very slim. That would have to be a lemon like I have never seen. If the repair bills on your old car, would get to the point where buying a new car would be cost effective, that make and model (I hope) would be scratched from the list of new car choices. There comes a point and time when every car owner feels the need for a new car, but repair bills, and the warranty running out, are not usually the real reason for it. Many people will use it as an excuse though. My uncle is one of those people. He says "I never pay for repairs on my cars, because I trade them in as soon as the warranty runs out" trying to imply that he's somehow saving money that way. I don't think so.
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Re: Camry or Accord? [elroy5] by stlpike07
Nov 09, 2007 (12:18 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Nov 09, 2007 10:30 am)

I think your uncle, like me, just enjoys driving new cars and only wants to keep them for a few years. Some people do not like driving old cars and enjoy newer technology, including safety technology. Also, new engines and motors, suspension, stereo, etc.
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OT: TL (or Accord?) [bug4] by robertsmx
Nov 09, 2007 (1:50 pm)
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Replying to: bug4 (Nov 09, 2007 8:44 am)

It would be unfair to compare my 98 Accord to 06 TL. But as far as TL goes, the biggest surprise has been fuel economy and handling. I was almost set to purchase TSX for those reasons but don’t miss it at all. In fact, the TL gets me virtually identical mileage as the Accord. Both get me 25-26 mpg consistently in mixed driving (50-50). It is a different matter though that the Acura runs on premium. They both get me about the same mileage on highway too (32-33 mpg with an average speed between 70- 75 mph).
 
The engine is whisper quiet during cruising and low throttle driving and under low throttle driving. But at the same time, produces a nice refined growl when throttle is depressed that I could hear all day.
 
While the transmission is virtually seamless, I think Acura should go for a 6AT, with sport shift mode that affords greater control to the driver than the TL currently does. I would also like to see Acura being less aggressive with gearing around 40-45 mph. As it is now, if you drive only under 45 mph, you will never engage the top gear. A lower limit should be possible, and might help gain another mpg or two in real world (besides helping improve EPA ratings as well, since most of their tests involve speeds under 40 mph).
 
Although quiet for having sporty suspension, wide and low profile tires, it could use a little more noise insulation on old concrete surfaces. May be it is in the tires. I also think it is one of the best looking cars in sub-40K price class, with a fantastic interior design (being an engineer, I like industrial designs, and the nice aluminum/carbon-fiber trimming in my silver TL is just the kind I would design).
 
The ride may be a bit firm for a typical Lexus buyer (Acura did soften the base model a bit in 2007 and apparently it handles just as well. TL-S handles even better and rides more like my 06 TL). If I had to do it again, I will pick the TL, again. I am curious to see how much more Acura can actually improve the car over the 2004-2008 version.
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Re: Camry or Accord? [elroy5] by gooddeal2
Nov 09, 2007 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Nov 09, 2007 10:30 am)

My uncle is one of those people. He says "I never pay for repairs on my cars, because I trade them in as soon as the warranty runs out" trying to imply that he's somehow saving money that way.
 
It's true if he's a wise consumer. I won't try to waste my time to explain to people who have different thinking PLUS if everyone buys new cars. The market for old cars will be bad.
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Re: Camry or Accord? [gooddeal2] by elroy5
Nov 09, 2007 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: gooddeal2 (Nov 09, 2007 2:05 pm)

Please, explain this to me. I'm looking for ways to save $$. Explain how buying a new car every 5 years costs less than buying a new one every 10 years. I'm on the edge of my seat here. I guess I'm not "wise" enough to figure this one out.

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