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Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Sedan
#2260 of 2813 Re: Same as anonymous... [motownusa]
Jul 07, 2005 (10:13 am)
I am trying to decide whether to purchase a Honda Accord, Civic or Toyota Camry or Corrola. i am a young sixtyish lady and have a wonderful 1990 Accord with under 70,000 mi., thought it wise to purchase a newer car while i still have all my mental faculties (I hope). i like both the Accord and Camry, however feel that Honda lacks good paint finish and styling on the interior, all had same impression about the Civic paint quality. the Camry and Corrolla i thought were exterior better quility, but thought the plastic grill work on Corolla looks cheap and Camry may be too large. what are your thoughts on this, maybe i should just lease one of these and wait for the redesign models.
#2261 of 2813 Re: Same as anonymous... [gigi419]
Jul 07, 2005 (10:44 am)
Hi gigi: Being the owner of both a 1999 Corolla and a 2003 Camry I can say that if I have to choose between the two, I would definitely get the Camry. I think price wise it is the better deal. I regularly see 4 cylinder Camry advertised for 16.5K. It is difficult to get the Corolla for under 15K ( at least in my region ). The Camry is much roomier, quieter, and more enjoyable on long trips. The only drawback is that fuel efficiency is almost 10 mpg less than the Corolla. Although if you get the 4 cylinder Camry ( mine is a V6 ) you can get around 35 mpg on the highway. Also a redesigned Camry is coming out in less than a year so it will be pretty easy to get a nice deal on the Camry.
the plastic grill work on Corolla looks cheap and Camry may be too large.
I noticed that too. I personally don't like the current generation Corolla. Something about the car looks awkward to me. IMHO, 1998-2002 MY Corollas were the best looking Corollas of all time. In terms of the Camry being large, I agree. My 92 Camry felt smaller and more nimble than my 03. But I like a quiet, roomy car. And since my fiance and I are getting married in about 4 months, the extra room will come in handy . However, if you need a car right now while waiting for a redesigned version to come out, ( the redesigned Camry comes out sooner ) leasing might be the best option. Your monthly payments will be significantly lower compare to buying the car. Also, do your research before buying the car. NEVER EVER PAY MSRP. I think the Edmunds website is great for finding out the TMV (True Market Value) of a particular car or truck. Anyway hopefully I have been of some help. Keep us posted on your decision.
Have a great day
#2262 of 2813 [gigi419]
Jul 07, 2005 (11:05 am)
I would wait for the new models to come out, i think i made a mistake of buying an Accord at this time with all these new designs coming out. If you really want to buy a car i would lease it so atleast you can wait to see how the new designs from Honda and Toyota look like.
In my opinion i prefer the Accord better its interior to me has a better fit and finish. To me the Camry although has a very nice interior seems a little dull in my opinion (even with the SE). As for Civic and Corolla, i prefer Corolla's interior. Exterior paint quality, i am not really sure about that they all seem pretty equal to me.
You should test drove all 4 cars, maybe you may feel Camry feels too big in a parking lot or a Corolla feels to small. I bought the Accord over the Civic becasue i have a family of 4 and the Civic was too small for us. Also look for engine power maybe the 4cylinder Accord and Camry are too underpowered (i prefered V6 because i do a lot of highway driving) The Camry is quieter then the Accord (you'll notice after test driving) but i didn't really care. I prefered the Accord becasue of its slightly tighter suspension, better steering and more powerful V6. It all depends on what you prefer .
#2263 of 2813 Re:Car Choices: Corolla/Camry or Civic/Accord........ [gigi419]
Jul 07, 2005 (11:18 am)
The Corolla and Civic are very different from the Camry and Accord, so you must decide what size is more comfortable for you considering that all else equal, a larger car is safer.
The Civic will be all new in just a couple of months, so if you buy an '05 Civic now, it'll look old very soon. Don't buy an '05 Civic unless you get a substantially discounted price at this time. The next Corolla I think will be introduced for the 2008 model year--probably in early 2007 (I'm not sure about that, though).
The next Camry is rumored to be introduced early in 2006 as a 2007 model, so buying an '05 or a short-year '06 Camry should be at a deeply discounted price, too. The '07 Camry, when it appears in early '06 will be a very attractive car--much better than the current one IMO.
If you want to buy a car now and don't want it to be obsolete within the next couple of years, I think your best bets are the Corolla for a small car and the Accord for a mid-sized one. They are both excellent and you really can't make a bad choice.
If you want the newest of the new, wait a couple of months for the 2006 Civic which will be a very good and surely a very safe small car with standard ABS, airbags all around, etc. Honda has been making safety features standard and Toyota as been offering them as options. That's enough reason to lean toward the Hondas. Inasmuch as your current car is a Honda Accord and you like it, be assured that the new Accord is a superb car. With respect to Accord engines, the 4 cylinder is fast enough and is much quicker than the engine in your current Accord--test drive it and you'll see. The V6 is faster, of course, but likely to be unnecessary for most normal driving.
Good luck and let us know what you bought..............Richard
#2264 of 2813 Re: Same as anonymous... [gigi419]
Jul 07, 2005 (12:05 pm)
The 2006 Corolla will also get some minor changes as well (it should be out in the next 2-3 months) in addition to the MY06 Accord.
So your best choices right now are the 06 Accord (if you want a larger car), 06 Civic or Corolla if you want a smaller car.
#2265 of 2813 Re: Same as anonymous... [gigi419]
Jul 07, 2005 (3:05 pm)
The Camry looks bigger than the Accord because it is a couple inches taller. Length and width are within 1" of each other. A lease is not a bad way to go if you aren't sure. Or buy a certified used vehicle so you have good warranty coverage.
Jul 09, 2005 (5:32 am)
We have an 05 Accord V6 as a company car. It's gotten mpg as high as 31.3 and averages in the high 20's in all-around driving. It's also extremely popular because it's quiet, smooth, and quick.
The Camry has a little more interior volume, though. Does the V6 get comparable mpg? Most of the folks at work don't car about the "Granny" image as long as it gets them there and has a good radio.
What kind of mixed use mpg do the 4 cylinder models get? One fellow at work with a 4 Accord gets about the same mpg as the V6 on average, but it's obviously a lot slower and works harder.
#2267 of 2813 Re: MPG [garandman]
Jul 09, 2005 (10:02 am)
I find this type of mileage claim in a post annoying. I read these claims all the time. It is a physical impossibility for a 6 cylinder engine and a 4 cylinder engine to get the same mileage. Also, the 6 cylinder models weigh more. Again, it is a physical law that moving a heavier object takes more energy. Obviously, fuel is being injected into and burned in 2 extra cylinders. The additional power and acceleration comes at a price...it has to.
Honda has made great strides at improving the gas mileage of their 6 cylinder models. They have done extensive testing of their engines and have posted the results for the world to see. I suspect that people have different ways of determining mileage, rather than simply dividing the miles driven by the number of gallons used. Perhaps they don't fill the tank to the same level each time as the pump check function varies from station to station.
Whether it is politically correct or just a status thing, I don't know, but 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder models have different fuel economy.
#2268 of 2813 Re: MPG [garandman/joe122]
Jul 09, 2005 (10:57 am)
My 2003 Accord 4 cylinder manual transmission averaged 30 in mixed driving, and got 32-36 on highway trips. So the V6 numbers seem within reason. The Accord rarely seemed to be "working very hard" as it had plenty of power.
An inefficient 4 cylinder can certainly get worse gas mileage than an efficient 6 cylinder, but in the case of the Accord both are very efficient so the 4 gets somewhat better gas mileage. Compare the Accord 6 cylinder to the Suzuki Forenza 4 cylinder.
Horsepower Accord 240 Forenza 126
Overall Length Accord 189.5 Forenza 177.2
Curb Weight Accord 3349 Forenza 2756
Fuel Economy Accord 30/21 Forenza 30/22
Nearly identical fuel economy numbers despite the fact the Accord is larger and 600 pounds heavier and has almost 2 times the horsepower.
Now joe122, do you think if we dropped the drivetrain from the Forenza into the Accord it would get anywhere near 30/21? Not a chance (my guess would be 26/19 or so and dog slow also); there is your example of a 4 cylinder engine that is much less efficient than a 6 cylinder one.
#2269 of 2813 Hate to break it to ya Joe..
Jul 09, 2005 (12:36 pm)
But the V6 Altima actually get better gas mileage than the I4 on the highway, who says the Accord EXV6 can't beat the I4???
With the way Car companies keep coming up with new things, nothing surprises me anymore...
You must also take into affect driving style.
When I drive my Altima I usually get about 25 MPG combined.
When my mother drives the Altima, she usually gets about 30....ummm...
I drive faster than she does
I'm sure the Accord and Camry can get much better considering they have more advanced engines with a (better) 5spd automatic.