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You are in the Honda Accord
What is this discussion about?
Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Sedan
#1975 of 2813 Re: Problems & Sol.: 9456 posts for Accord vs. 2878 for Camry [bamacar]
Jan 26, 2005 (11:28 am)
I resent ppl who say that only older ppl drive the Camrys. I am just 22, a college student who happens to see a lot of other college students drive their Camrys to school. Btw, I just bought my 2005 camry XLE. This car caters to my needs, is luxurious, lots of features, more comfortable than the accord, bigger trunk, Looks better than the accord and I am putting a spoiler on mine very soon. Also, i am not the first one in my family buying a Toyota. This car has a reputation and an outstanding one for good reason. There are 6 in my family and most of the drivers are 20's to 30's (1992-2005 models). Haven't heard a complaint about their cars.I have been browsing this forum for a couple of days and this is my first time writing and imho, some ppl in here don't seem to understand that ppl are entitled to their own opinions and you don't have to go defend the cars you drive. I know i did a lot of research before i bought my Camry and I also know that I am never going to regret buying my camry. This is the best decision that I have taken. As a matter of fact, my spouse will be buying one very soon.
#1976 of 2813 Re: Thoughts About Silly Wing Things...... [richards38]
Jan 26, 2005 (12:52 pm)
Spoilers are NOT designed to be safety hazards...when people add on their own spoilers then it does become a safety hazard ( especially the high ones ). Again I don't see how they are junk. And what does "classy" have to do with a spoiler??? I'll tell you one thing that is definitely not appealing about the Accord though...check out it's back...check it out from any angle, unfortunately it still looks horrible. And I'm not a Toyota freak...I was actually considering an Accord, the backside is UGLY.
They need to do something about that!!! Like the Camry, the Accord is a nice car that has one ugly butt. The booty has got to go!
#1977 of 2813 Question on threads...
Jan 26, 2005 (1:01 pm)
There is an active discussion on the " Camry vs Accord " but the " Corolla vs. Civic " it's marked as 'read only' which means that you cannot post anymore, why is this?? I don't understand why some of these are closed. It doesn't make sense to me to see these moderators close down discussions. Does anyone know about this? It's annoying sometimes because you want to post your thoughts and contribute to the discussion but it's not possible.
#1979 of 2813 Re: Thoughts About Silly Wing Things [jjnikk76] aka "ugly butt"
Jan 26, 2005 (1:55 pm)
I've seen/heard quite a bit of "ugly butt" comment on Accord. From both some on-line publications and real world people. I suspect that this may be a big contributing factor for Accord's slightly lower sales volume comparing to Camry's (giving these two are so close competitors).
Note however, 05 Accord changed the color of part of its tail lights, making them nearly all red instead of red and clear. On darker color cars, this improved rear appearance quite a bit, in my opinion. The downward curve of the lights is not that obvious now. The rumor is that there will be further changes next year. It seems that Honda is aware of people's perception on this. Of course, not everyone thinks it has "ugly butt" to begin with, but it seems to get to a point that it's swaying some people's purchasing decision.
#1980 of 2813 Re: Problems & Sol.: 9456 posts for Accord vs. 2878 for Camry [peterpan]
Jan 26, 2005 (4:03 pm)
There are NO scientific reasons to explain that. None. Your data sample is totally worthless. You cannot ever extrapolate scientific data from numbers of posts under any given header of any given message board and to pretend otherwise is just that - a pretense - and it seems to a pretense with the intent of disrupting.
Obviously, there is no way that the people who post on Edmunds represent any statistically correct percentage of owners; that's your biggest problem. And for you to rely on discussion titles makes it clear that you are clueless on the history of these boards. There are zillions of Camry and Accord posts in many, many discussions in our archives that contain negative and positive comments; the standardization and specialization of discussion names is very, very recent.
It's not even worth getting into with you - your premise is ridiculous and if you don't know that, you know it now. Leave it be.
Post no further about this - if you have something else to say, email me.
#1981 of 2813 Re: Question on threads... [jjnikk76]
Jan 26, 2005 (4:03 pm)
If you will open the discussion that is marked read-only, you will find a link at the top of it that will give you a place to request it be reopened.
"These moderators" do not "close down" discussions for no reason. There is an automatic archiving policy in place on these boards which means that when a discussion has had no activity for some amount of time, it essentially closes itself and moves into the archives.
Any discussion can be reopened by request; that is never a problem - just ask!
Now, there are times when a discussion is administratively closed by the host for various reasons, the most common of which is if a discussion has gotten so off-track and argumentative it is no longer providing any value.
See my next post ...
#1982 of 2813 To those who would like to continue this discussion ...
Jan 26, 2005 (4:03 pm)
Folks, I gotta be honest with you - you know as well as I do that we all have only so much time in the day, and the reality is that I cannot afford to keep spending all of my hosting time in this discussion. I also have all the rest of the discussions on the entire Sedans board as well as this Comparisons board to deal with and lately I am having to shortchange the rest of them to deal with this.
You have a troll amongst you. Your mama did teach you not to feed the trolls, right? Yet some of you keep right on feedin'.
When you let someone pull your chain and push you over the edge of civility, the chain-puller just won. Is that really what you want? I don't think so.
I need for those of you who want this discussion to remain open to continue to contribute in a non-inflammatory and sensible way. Above all, you need to stop responding to the instigators and about their posts. Ignore, ignore, ignore. If you are unable to ignore, email me, but do not respond.
If the instigators and responders continue to overtake this discussion, I'm going to have to shut it down. It's just a matter of logistics.
#1983 of 2813 Re: Problems & Sol.: 9456 posts for Accord vs. 2878 for Camry [03accordman]
Jan 26, 2005 (4:12 pm)
>> I don't see why Pat hasn't removed this posting, since it is clearly a personal attack.
Two things here - one, these boards are not monitored in real time. I saw the post to which you refer at the same time I saw your post complaining that I hadn't removed it. For future reference, if you feel the need to call my attention to a post, you should email me. Posting about it is useless because I will see your post the same time I see the problem message. Emailing me will at least guarantee that I get to your problem when I first get into the Forums rather than find it when I happen to run into it on my usual rounds.
Point two: You are responding to a classic "troll" post. The message is not a "personal attack" because it was not directed at any specific Forums member, only to a broad group of people that includes some Forums members, but no one is identified specifically. That is the hallmark of a troll. He stays right inside the lines but manages to anger others to the point where they cross the line.
Don't be a sucker - don't feed the trolls. These are words to live by, trust me.
#1984 of 2813 Last word from me...
Jan 26, 2005 (4:15 pm)
I am sorry for all that has gone on here. I would like very much for us to be able to continue this conversation about these two vehicles, but as I indicated, I need your help to do it.
I am not going to discuss any of this disruption any further here. I will be happy to discuss any aspect of it in email, so please feel free to contact me that way if you have things to say or questions to ask.
If anyone posts any further about any of these issues, the message will be removed.
On the other hand, any posts that strive to get us back on track will be most welcome and I will be very grateful to see them.
Thanks, I really appreciate your understanding and your cooperation.