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Honda Accord vs Toyota Camry

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What is this discussion about? Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Sedan


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Re: Sales Figures Are Misleading..... [peterpan] by 03accordman
Jan 26, 2005 (5:55 am)
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Replying to: peterpan (Jan 25, 2005 9:50 pm)

"May be rental car companies wouldn't buy the Accord because it's flimsy and breaks down a lot"
 
Do you have any statistics to prove this statement? Rental car companies have a lot more Tauruses than Camrys, by your logic, are you saying that a Taurus is more reliable than a Camry? Similarly, I havent nearly as many Corollas as I have seen Cavaliers at rental car companies, does that mean Corollas are not reliable?
 
Anyway, we would all be glad if you could point us to a source upon which you base your opinion.
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Re: Camry out sold Accord in 2004 [peterpan] by 03accordman
Jan 26, 2005 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: peterpan (Jan 26, 2005 12:32 am)

"Car magazines' writers don't have to buy, pay for, own, repair and live with their test cars for years"
 
You are aware that car magazines DO buy long term test cars? Anyway, based on your logic, should we disregard the media views of cars? The reason car mags was brought into the discussion was because one of the posters said that some publication data shows Camry is better than Accord, so we responded with data from other car mags.
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Re: Exterior Style Too Subjective--Discussion Meaningless.... [1winglow] by 03accordman
Jan 26, 2005 (6:02 am)
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Replying to: 1winglow (Jan 25, 2005 4:02 pm)

"Personally, I would prefer driving the Accord, since I drive cars very hard, but the rest of the family dislikes the Accord's cramped and hard seats, and the rough ride"
 
Please refer to any ONE professional review that calls the Accords seats hard, and cramped. If you want to go by your own feel, please also look at the official interior space, legroom etc figures.
 
FYI, many professional testers have reviewed that the Camry's rear seat cushion is shorter then the previous model, which give more leg room, but lesset thigh room.
 
Having said all of this, I have been saying from the beginning that the Camry rides smoother and is more isolated, where as the Accord has a stiffer, sportier ride. The folks who buy these cars have the same choice to make and buy what ever they prefer.
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Re: Exterior Style Too Subjective--Discussion Meaningless.... [1winglow] by 03accordman
Jan 26, 2005 (6:06 am)
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Replying to: 1winglow (Jan 25, 2005 4:02 pm)

"The Camry's front end looks young, aggressive, alert, happy, healthy, wholesome, cool, cute....
  
The Accord's front end, with its sharply triangular head lights and curved hood, looks old, plain, tired, droopy, sick, sad, sorry, nasty... "
 
I don't know by which stretch of imagination you can rake up all the foul words describing the shape of the Accord and then go on to wax eloquent about the Camrys shape. Your post is based on anecdotes that support your theory and I can fill pages upon pages of this forum with anecdotes about the Camrys vanilla exterior, but anecdotes really don't mean much, do they?
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? by alpha01
Jan 26, 2005 (7:15 am)
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I cannot understand why the intelligent people that post on this board continue to debate issues of styling. The argument will go nowhere, and is moot. As stated before, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
 
~alpha
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by anonymousposts
Jan 26, 2005 (7:30 am)
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What's funny to me is that certain Camry driver's are intent on slamming the Accord. Can't you just agree that the cars appeal to different audiences and let that be the end of it. Subjective opinions don't mean a whole lot in a discussion.
 
So some of you think a Camry feels like a Lexus. I can tell you from experience that there is a significant difference between an ES330 and a Camry let alone anything above the ES330. If you wanted a "Lexus-feel" you shoulda bought a real Lexus.
 
I happen to love the way my Accord looks. I love the way it drives even more. I love the manual transmission with the leather, dual-zone climate control, sunroof, XM radio, and heated seats. I didn't buy it expecting it to feel like a Lexus nor did I want it to.
 
Also, you do not see Accord's on rental lots because Honda as a manufacturer will not sell them directly to fleets. Any rental company who wants Accords must buy them from a Honda dealer like any other person would do. Toyota deals directly with fleets to the tune of about 10% per year. Honda keeps it's fleet sales to less than 2%. That also explains a bit of the Camry's sales advantage over the Accord.
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Re: Problems & Sol.: 9456 posts for Accord vs. 2878 for Camry [03accordman] by peterpan
Jan 26, 2005 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: 03accordman (Jan 26, 2005 5:52 am)

I am trying to find all possible scientific, not personal, explanations for why there are more than 3.3x number of posts on Accords' problems than Camrys...
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Re: Problems & Sol.: 9456 posts for Accord vs. 2878 for Camry [peterpan] by alpha01
Jan 26, 2005 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: peterpan (Jan 26, 2005 8:00 am)

Why? What purpose does that serve? Respectfully, I dont think any of your conclusions will be "scientific" in nature. I would ask that you not make the rest of Camry owners/fans appear stubborn and assuming, so please do not make wild claims.
 
The Camry and Accord are both excellent vehicles that cater to similar buyers with different preferences. Choose the Camry if ride ride, isolation, and restraint are paramount, and choose the Accord if involvement, and precision are your choice. As of 2005, when equipped similarly, the vehicles have MSRPs that closely approximate each other, so the choice really comes down to preference.
 
To me, the major differences lie in the fact that the Accord makes available an outstanding Hybrid model, while the Camry offers the availability of what has been called the greatest safety advance since seatbelts- electronic stability control.
 
Both offer outstanding efficiency and safety (when Camry is equipped with side and side curtain airbags). For the base models, Honda should be wholly commended on making side and side curtain airbags standard, and Toyota would do well to follow the lead.
 
~alpha
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Re: Problems & Sol.: 9456 posts for Accord vs. 2878 for Camry [peterpan] by bamacar
Jan 26, 2005 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: peterpan (Jan 26, 2005 8:00 am)

Could be the typical Camry buyer (50ish female-former Buick owners) are not exactly your typlical online computer chat gurus. Those that are not online cannot post, much less be trying to fix automotive problems for themselves.
 
I agree with your post Alpha just can't help but to post a response in the peterpan style.

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