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Sedans Honda Accord Honda Accord vs Toyota Camry
2806 messages, Last post on Jul 25, 2009 at 4:28 AM
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Replying to: jjnikk76 (Jan 26, 2005 1:07 am) One of the auto magazines--maybe "Motor Trend" or "Car & Driver"--tested cars for speed and stability with and without spoilers. The bottom line was that there was no benefit except that one of the tested cars, a Porsche, was either slightly faster and/or more stable, but only at speeds over 125 MPH. I have no plans to drive that fast. So the only value of spoilers is their look which in my view is well named--they spoil the look of the car. Also, to the extent that a spoiler might interfere with rear visibility, it's a safety hazard as well. I respect the opinions of those who think spoilers look good--I see them stuck on just about every kind of car and I hope their owners are happy, but I've never seen any car that I thought was improved by a useless bar bolted to its trunk lid.......Richard
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Replying to: peterpan (Jan 26, 2005 12:23 am) IMO, Honda buyers are more vocal, and probably expect more from their cars, and that could be the reason that there are more posts in the Problems and Solutions forum. To prove my point, I am sure that the total number of forums and posts will be much more for Accord, than Camry, not just the problems boards. Again, you say that Accord owners are wordy, mouthy and lengthy, requiring 3 times the posts to get their message through, implying we are idiots. I don't see why Pat hasn't removed this posting, since it is clearly a personal attack.
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Replying to: peterpan (Jan 25, 2005 9:50 pm) Do you have any statistics to prove this statement? Rental car companies have a lot more Tauruses than Camrys, by your logic, are you saying that a Taurus is more reliable than a Camry? Similarly, I havent nearly as many Corollas as I have seen Cavaliers at rental car companies, does that mean Corollas are not reliable? Anyway, we would all be glad if you could point us to a source upon which you base your opinion. |
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Replying to: peterpan (Jan 26, 2005 12:32 am) You are aware that car magazines DO buy long term test cars? Anyway, based on your logic, should we disregard the media views of cars? The reason car mags was brought into the discussion was because one of the posters said that some publication data shows Camry is better than Accord, so we responded with data from other car mags. |
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Replying to: 1winglow (Jan 25, 2005 4:02 pm) Please refer to any ONE professional review that calls the Accords seats hard, and cramped. If you want to go by your own feel, please also look at the official interior space, legroom etc figures. FYI, many professional testers have reviewed that the Camry's rear seat cushion is shorter then the previous model, which give more leg room, but lesset thigh room. Having said all of this, I have been saying from the beginning that the Camry rides smoother and is more isolated, where as the Accord has a stiffer, sportier ride. The folks who buy these cars have the same choice to make and buy what ever they prefer. |
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Replying to: 1winglow (Jan 25, 2005 4:02 pm) The Accord's front end, with its sharply triangular head lights and curved hood, looks old, plain, tired, droopy, sick, sad, sorry, nasty... " I don't know by which stretch of imagination you can rake up all the foul words describing the shape of the Accord and then go on to wax eloquent about the Camrys shape. Your post is based on anecdotes that support your theory and I can fill pages upon pages of this forum with anecdotes about the Camrys vanilla exterior, but anecdotes really don't mean much, do they? |
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I cannot understand why the intelligent people that post on this board continue to debate issues of styling. The argument will go nowhere, and is moot. As stated before, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. ~alpha |
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What's funny to me is that certain Camry driver's are intent on slamming the Accord. Can't you just agree that the cars appeal to different audiences and let that be the end of it. Subjective opinions don't mean a whole lot in a discussion. So some of you think a Camry feels like a Lexus. I can tell you from experience that there is a significant difference between an ES330 and a Camry let alone anything above the ES330. If you wanted a "Lexus-feel" you shoulda bought a real Lexus. I happen to love the way my Accord looks. I love the way it drives even more. I love the manual transmission with the leather, dual-zone climate control, sunroof, XM radio, and heated seats. I didn't buy it expecting it to feel like a Lexus nor did I want it to. Also, you do not see Accord's on rental lots because Honda as a manufacturer will not sell them directly to fleets. Any rental company who wants Accords must buy them from a Honda dealer like any other person would do. Toyota deals directly with fleets to the tune of about 10% per year. Honda keeps it's fleet sales to less than 2%. That also explains a bit of the Camry's sales advantage over the Accord. |
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Replying to: 03accordman (Jan 26, 2005 5:52 am)
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