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Honda Accord vs Toyota Camry

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What is this discussion about? Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Sedan


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Re: Camry out sold Accord in 2004 [bizi] by peterpan
Jan 26, 2005 (12:32 am)
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Replying to: bizi (Jan 26, 2005 12:11 am)

"Most of professional on-line web sites (magazines) comparing these two cars actually prefer Accord over Camry (the current models). It seems that consumers prefer Camry a bit more "
 
Car magazines' writers don't have to buy, pay for, own, repair and live with their test cars for years.
 
Consumers do!
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Re: Accord's seats are hard, ride is very stiff [ktnr] by peterpan
Jan 26, 2005 (12:44 am)
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Replying to: ktnr (Jan 22, 2005 6:39 pm)

" Look at the furor caused over his message #1885. Peterpan's warning on the terrible dangers of driving an Accord turned out to be inconclusive data taken in 1994-1997. "

Can you produce any evidence to dispute these statistics from the IIHS?
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Re: Accord's seats are hard, ride is very stiff [richards38] by jjnikk76
Jan 26, 2005 (1:07 am)
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Replying to: richards38 (Jan 21, 2005 10:47 pm)

Silly wing things??? Since you seem to like Accords and the drive feel more it's strange you don't like spoilers. I think they look great on cars...except for the really high ones( like on some subarus and some hondas that are modified...civics if i'm not mistaken). It's not junk, it's called " making a car look sportier ". Now if you don't like the look, then that's a different thing.
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Thoughts About Silly Wing Things...... by richards38
Jan 26, 2005 (2:13 am)
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Replying to: jjnikk76 (Jan 26, 2005 1:07 am)

I like styles that are clean and not cluttered by things added on as afterthoughts unless there is some real purpose for the add-on. Part of the Accord's appeal is its smooth and uncluttered design along with a classy interior and superb driving dynamics. It's not a sports car, but it is a driver's car.
 
One of the auto magazines--maybe "Motor Trend" or "Car & Driver"--tested cars for speed and stability with and without spoilers. The bottom line was that there was no benefit except that one of the tested cars, a Porsche, was either slightly faster and/or more stable, but only at speeds over 125 MPH. I have no plans to drive that fast.
 
So the only value of spoilers is their look which in my view is well named--they spoil the look of the car. Also, to the extent that a spoiler might interfere with rear visibility, it's a safety hazard as well.
 
I respect the opinions of those who think spoilers look good--I see them stuck on just about every kind of car and I hope their owners are happy, but I've never seen any car that I thought was improved by a useless bar bolted to its trunk lid.......Richard
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Re: Problems & Sol.: 9456 posts for Accord vs. 2878 for Camry [peterpan] by 03accordman
Jan 26, 2005 (5:52 am)
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Replying to: peterpan (Jan 26, 2005 12:23 am)

"To be exact, there are 3.3 posts in the Accords' Problems and Solutions forum for each in the Camry."
 
IMO, Honda buyers are more vocal, and probably expect more from their cars, and that could be the reason that there are more posts in the Problems and Solutions forum. To prove my point, I am sure that the total number of forums and posts will be much more for Accord, than Camry, not just the problems boards.
 
Again, you say that Accord owners are wordy, mouthy and lengthy, requiring 3 times the posts to get their message through, implying we are idiots. I don't see why Pat hasn't removed this posting, since it is clearly a personal attack.
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Re: Sales Figures Are Misleading..... [peterpan] by 03accordman
Jan 26, 2005 (5:55 am)
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Replying to: peterpan (Jan 25, 2005 9:50 pm)

"May be rental car companies wouldn't buy the Accord because it's flimsy and breaks down a lot"
 
Do you have any statistics to prove this statement? Rental car companies have a lot more Tauruses than Camrys, by your logic, are you saying that a Taurus is more reliable than a Camry? Similarly, I havent nearly as many Corollas as I have seen Cavaliers at rental car companies, does that mean Corollas are not reliable?
 
Anyway, we would all be glad if you could point us to a source upon which you base your opinion.
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Re: Camry out sold Accord in 2004 [peterpan] by 03accordman
Jan 26, 2005 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: peterpan (Jan 26, 2005 12:32 am)

"Car magazines' writers don't have to buy, pay for, own, repair and live with their test cars for years"
 
You are aware that car magazines DO buy long term test cars? Anyway, based on your logic, should we disregard the media views of cars? The reason car mags was brought into the discussion was because one of the posters said that some publication data shows Camry is better than Accord, so we responded with data from other car mags.
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Re: Exterior Style Too Subjective--Discussion Meaningless.... [1winglow] by 03accordman
Jan 26, 2005 (6:02 am)
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Replying to: 1winglow (Jan 25, 2005 4:02 pm)

"Personally, I would prefer driving the Accord, since I drive cars very hard, but the rest of the family dislikes the Accord's cramped and hard seats, and the rough ride"
 
Please refer to any ONE professional review that calls the Accords seats hard, and cramped. If you want to go by your own feel, please also look at the official interior space, legroom etc figures.
 
FYI, many professional testers have reviewed that the Camry's rear seat cushion is shorter then the previous model, which give more leg room, but lesset thigh room.
 
Having said all of this, I have been saying from the beginning that the Camry rides smoother and is more isolated, where as the Accord has a stiffer, sportier ride. The folks who buy these cars have the same choice to make and buy what ever they prefer.
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Re: Exterior Style Too Subjective--Discussion Meaningless.... [1winglow] by 03accordman
Jan 26, 2005 (6:06 am)
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Replying to: 1winglow (Jan 25, 2005 4:02 pm)

"The Camry's front end looks young, aggressive, alert, happy, healthy, wholesome, cool, cute....
  
The Accord's front end, with its sharply triangular head lights and curved hood, looks old, plain, tired, droopy, sick, sad, sorry, nasty... "
 
I don't know by which stretch of imagination you can rake up all the foul words describing the shape of the Accord and then go on to wax eloquent about the Camrys shape. Your post is based on anecdotes that support your theory and I can fill pages upon pages of this forum with anecdotes about the Camrys vanilla exterior, but anecdotes really don't mean much, do they?
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? by alpha01
Jan 26, 2005 (7:15 am)
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I cannot understand why the intelligent people that post on this board continue to debate issues of styling. The argument will go nowhere, and is moot. As stated before, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
 
~alpha

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