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Sedans Honda Accord Honda Accord vs Toyota Camry
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Replying to: cutedh (Jan 25, 2005 12:32 am) Beauty and ugliness are hard to describe. You know it when you see it. If there are no such general agreements on beauty and ugliness, how come there are super models who make millions every years with their beauty, and there are plain Janes who can never get a date? Scientists have studied criteria that appeal to most people as beauty. These criteria are defined as proportionality, symmetry, balance... I happened to know a few males/females in their late teens, early twenties who like the Camry's stylings over the Accord's. Here are some of their observations: The Camry's front end looks young, aggressive, alert, happy, healthy, wholesome, cool, cute.... The Accord's front end, with its sharply triangular head lights and curved hood, looks old, plain, tired, droopy, sick, sad, sorry, nasty... The younger people I know are definitely excited by the Camry's styling, but are turned off by the Accord's. There is no neutral ground. Personally, I would prefer driving the Accord, since I drive cars very hard, but the rest of the family dislikes the Accord's cramped and hard seats, and the rough ride. The Camry's quiet and smooth ride makes a big difference in wear and tear on the bodies and minds of the occupants, especially on long trips.
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Hey folks, we need to stop with the personal comments. I have removed some messages that were way over the top. We also need to give up on the arguments about "beauty". We can go around on this until the end of time - the reality is that we are all entitled to our opinions, and views/feelings/ beliefs, etc. about appearance ARE opinions. It's time for us to accept the fact that we have different opinions on the styling of these vehicles and stop fighting about it. Not one single one of you is going to convince another that your view of appearance is "correct" nor are any of you going to accept someone else's argument that your view is incorrect. Think about it. We're just butting heads for the sake of butting heads and that needs to stop. Now let's move on. Thanks.
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Replying to: pat (Jan 25, 2005 4:07 pm) I am giving feedbacks to cars' styling dept. Please don't delete my philosophical musings on beauty and stylings of cars! |
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Replying to: richards38 (Jan 25, 2005 11:20 am)
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Replying to: rutger3 (Jan 24, 2005 7:46 am) A comment on price: I found that it depend on time, region and sometimes dealership. From my most recent shopping experience, Accord was more ready to go under invoice than Camry (with Camry's rebate factored in). The invoice price is also generally lower on Accord for the similarly equiped models (Accord has now all air bags standard). The price comparison was based on direct internet (or fleet) department quotes on V6 model. These days, the lowest three quotes from internet sales departments are usually pretty close (within a few hundred dollars of each other), so I believe the price comparison is valid. I've bought several Camrys in the past, and have been paying around invoice. BTW, it is not to say that Honda dealers are more willing to discount than Toyota in general. It has a lot to do with models, volume and demand. |
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Camry out sold Accord in 2004 by about 10%. Last time Accord out sold Camry was in 2001, according to the online article (http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4021893). It is not to say that one is better than the other, however, since the numbers are pretty close. Most of professional on-line web sites (magazines) comparing these two cars actually prefer Accord over Camry (the current models). It seems that consumers prefer Camry a bit more (or Toyota does marketing a bit better?)
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Honda is selling fewer Accords than Camrys, but the Accord has more than 3 times the posts in the problems and solutions forum in Edmunds compared to the Camry. To be exact, there are 3.3 posts in the Accords' Problems and Solutions forum for each in the Camry. A number of possibilities exist: 1. Accord has more than 3x problems than Camry. 2. Accord's problems are more complex and difficult, requiring 3x amount of posts. 3. Accords' owners are wordy, mouthy, lengthy...requiring 3x the amount of posts to get ideas through. 4. Camry's owners are strong, silent types, preferring not post about their cars' problems. 5. Wives of Camry's owners' discourage posting about cars and forbid visit to Edmunds.com. etc .......
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Replying to: bizi (Jan 26, 2005 12:11 am) Car magazines' writers don't have to buy, pay for, own, repair and live with their test cars for years. Consumers do!
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Replying to: ktnr (Jan 22, 2005 6:39 pm) Can you produce any evidence to dispute these statistics from the IIHS? |
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Replying to: richards38 (Jan 21, 2005 10:47 pm)
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