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#1885 of 2806 Accord's higher driver death rate by peterpan Jan 12, 2005 (11:40 am)
The Acord also has a higher figure than Camry: 1.68 dead drivers compared to 1 for Camry per million registered miles.   The injury rates were not mentioned but you can imagine for yourself!   Read post #1850:   In this measure, the Camry is rated the best among all sedans, even besting the Volvo 850. Compared to the Camry's Drivers' Death Rate normalized as 1, rates in other cars are higher: Nissan Maxima 1.32, Mercedez C-Class 1.40, Mazda 626 1.59, Accord 1.68, Altima 2.11, Avalon 2.16... Replies to this message: ktnr (Jan 12, 2005 12:41 pm) peterpan (Jan 12, 2005 2:50 pm) lmacmil (Jan 12, 2005 3:32 pm)
#1886 of 2806 Re: Ha, ha - made you look! [peterpan] by ktnr Jan 12, 2005 (12:41 pm)
Replying to: peterpan (Jan 12, 2005 11:40 am) "The Accord" - which Accord?   Peterpan doesn't include the ages of the Accords and Camrys studied so we can only imagine how old the cars are that generated his statistics. Not to mention the differences in driver's ages.   I'll save you the trouble of imagining or looking it up - the stats are derived from 1994-1997 model year cars - 2.9 million Accords vs. only 355,158 Camrys (with a higher statistical margin for error noted). The IIHS report notes that there are many factors which can skew the stats. The authors also note many inconsistencies in their own data.   But thanks, peterpan, for your ominous warning. Replies to this message: peterpan (Jan 12, 2005 2:50 pm)
#1887 of 2806 please by alpha01 Jan 12, 2005 (1:08 pm)
Stay away from Driver Death rates. Way too many variables that can't be isolated.   ~alpha Replies to this message: peterpan (Jan 12, 2005 2:43 pm)
#1888 of 2806 by ian721 Jan 12, 2005 (2:15 pm)
More value for your money is a pretty good braggin right. A comparable Accord was around $2500 more than the Camry when I was out shopping. That's nothing to sneeze at.   And if that's a result of "Toyota wanting to be #1," well...who cares? Consumers benefit.
#1889 of 2806 cost difference? by rutger3 Jan 12, 2005 (2:29 pm)
I do not believe there is a big difference currently in purchase price. You can probably get an Accord LX auto for around $18,500. Can you get a Camry LE auto w/side airbags for much less ? The invoices are almost identical.
#1890 of 2806 Re: please [alpha01] by peterpan Jan 12, 2005 (2:43 pm)
Replying to: alpha01 (Jan 12, 2005 1:08 pm) Like what variables?   You should have better reasons to discount some hard stats than this!
#1891 of 2806 Re: Ha, ha - made you look! [ktnr] by peterpan Jan 12, 2005 (2:50 pm)
Replying to: ktnr (Jan 12, 2005 12:41 pm) Manufacturers still use the same engineering staff and practices, manufacturing equipment, materials and methods, components etc... in design and manufacturing their cars.   Basic elements of products are carried over from older to newer products for decades.   There is no reason to believe car's safety trends would not continue in newer models.   Perhaps you can produce better stats than criticising the only stats thus far on safety!
#1892 of 2806 Re: Accord's higher driver death rate [peterpan] by lmacmil Jan 12, 2005 (3:32 pm)
Replying to: peterpan (Jan 12, 2005 11:40 am) Of all the reasons to buy or not buy a particular model, I can't think of one less important to me than driver death rate stats. If that's a real concern, you should probably be taking public transportation. I'll bet the death rate per passenger mile on your city bus is lower than Accord or Camry.
#1893 of 2806 Re: Camry Options by moeharri Jan 12, 2005 (5:09 pm)
I've noticed a few mistakes in indicating what a Camry does not have. I guess it depends on which model you are talking about. I'm picking up my 2005 XLE 4cyl on Saturday. It DOES have the following: * Lighted vanity mirrors (with dimmer) * Auto up window (I tried it out) * Back seat pockets * Lighted controls for locks, windows, etc * I believe, but am not positive that it has folding mirrors as well. Just wanted to clarify that the Camry does have those nice options. Replies to this message: ktnr (Jan 12, 2005 5:21 pm) moeharri (Jan 12, 2005 5:40 pm) lmkwin (Jan 12, 2005 7:01 pm)
#1894 of 2806 Re: Camry Options [moeharri] by ktnr Jan 12, 2005 (5:21 pm)
Replying to: moeharri (Jan 12, 2005 5:09 pm) Point for point, I was comparing the volume sellers; Accord LX vs. Camry LE. However, for all trim levels, I stand by my statement that I find cost-cutting to be more evident on the Camry. Replies to this message: moeharri (Jan 12, 2005 5:40 pm) lmkwin (Jan 12, 2005 7:01 pm)

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