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Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Sedan
#1600 of 2813 Camry styling
Oct 27, 2004 (4:44 am)
Until recently I always thought that the Accord was a nicer looking vehicle than the Camry. My 1986 Camry was a box compared to others in the category. However, the one thing the Camry always had was a classy look (not to be confused with good looking) and feel (except for model years 1997-2001). The current Camry model seems (in my humble opinion) to be the best looking Toyota has produced. It also has that classy elegance that was lost in the late 1990's.
Oct 27, 2004 (7:05 am)
I also love the Gen 5's styling. But part of me still thinks the Gen 3 takes the cake. That car was the classic Camry and all the others are catching up. And as the owner of a Gen 5, I can only hope that it lasts as long as all those Gen 3's I still see riding around everyday. They're literally everywhere more than 8 years after they stopped production.
Forget the Gen 4 -- one of the ugliest cars on the road IMHO.
#1602 of 2813 Re: [ian721]
Oct 27, 2004 (8:40 am)
Lots of generation 2s are being stolen.
#1603 of 2813 ian721
Oct 27, 2004 (8:49 am)
I agree with your take on the Gen3. I gave my 1994 LE to our son when I purchased the 2002 XLE. It still looks great. And, even though he doesn't maintain like I did, it still runs pretty darn good (it has near 300,000 kilometers - 180,000 miles). As stated in my previous post I also did not like the gen4 styling.
Oct 27, 2004 (7:28 pm)
I am assuming you mean the second generation Camry (87-91). I guess there's still a demand for parts for these cars even though the newest of them is almost 14 years old. I still see many of them on the road in my area. I had one until recently and I think that it was one of the most reliable and most popular models Toyota ever made. Even today that body style doesn't look that dated compared to other cars made in the late '80s or early '90s. The 1988 and 1989 models were at or near the top of the most frequently stolen lists for several years in a row.
Oct 27, 2004 (8:02 pm)
I could be getting old, but I love most Honda and Toyota designs up until about 1997. Maybe it's the cars I grew up with and they tend to stick in my head.
You never know, there could be a generation of Aztek lovers out there in a few years!
#1606 of 2813 Good price on a Camry 05 LE with Leather & Extra mile
Oct 28, 2004 (4:39 am)
I got an offer for an 05 Camry LE with Extramile option and Leather at 21800 + TTL. This includes TDA (299), MAF(275), 2% holdback (399), PIO Holdback (347), Fleetprice protection (160). similar Hondas sell for $22K + TTL as per websites.
I wanted a basic LE and am just interested in may be a leather seat.
Do you think Extra mile protection for 1050 and leather for 1150 (at invoices) are accurately priced? I donot see these prices on Edmunds or KBB.
Toyota has $1000 off till this weekend.
Is it off MSRP or can we ask it off invoice?
Don't you think that TDA (299), MAF(275), 2% holdback (399), PIO Holdback (347), Fleetprice protection (160), are just profits for Dealer and could be avoided?
Please reply as I have to make a decision in 24 hours..
#1607 of 2813 Re: [boomchek]
Oct 28, 2004 (6:21 am)
My 94 Camry was a dream, but I sold it to buy an 03 Accord, for safety reasons. I was 26 when I bought the Camry and wasn't very aware of crash testing, etc.
Older and "wiser" at 32, I wanted a car with all the latest airbags, etc. Unfortunately, my brand new Accord had recurring brake problems, so I ended up trading it in on an 04 Toyota Highlander.
I sometimes feel guilty thinking about the clearly disinterested teenager who ended up buying my Camry. Does he appreciate her as much as I did? Probably not. Whenever I see a white Camry from that era, I think about my old reliable baby.
Oct 28, 2004 (7:56 am)
"Don't you think that TDA (299), MAF(275), 2% holdback (399), PIO Holdback (347), Fleetprice protection (160), are just profits for Dealer and could be avoided?"
Yes, absolutely. I don't know what TDA and MAF stand for, but that all sounds like crap and I saw none of those on my contract when I purchased a few months ago. Do not negotiate the price of the car and then let the dealer add on those FIVE (!!!) mark-ups afterwards (not that it sounds like you did that). Make it very clear that you are considering those items as part of the base price of the car and not as separate items.
Then take that offer to another Toyota dealer and see what they say. If you're really after a "basic LE" then you should be paying a lot less, though I don't know what the leather and Extramile (?) options cost.
#1609 of 2813 Re: [ian721]Good price on a Camry 05 LE
Oct 28, 2004 (12:49 pm)
Thanks. I found another dealer who would charge me invoice minus some rebates plus TTL. I may buy from him. I would post details, if the deal falls through. The Leather (L1) package has invoice price of $ 1114 as per NADA, KBB. Dealer transportation charges are non-negotiable, I guess. And ofcourse the dealer is giving me only fair retail value of KBB.
What do you think?