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Acura TL, Sedan
#8285 of 9045 Re: Disposable cars nowadays [mikefm58]
Mar 01, 2006 (7:30 pm)
Well, I'm not sure I am 'complaining' that the car absorbed all the damage and not me. : )
I am just surprised really that it ended up being totalled. The amount of visible damage to the front did not make me think the car would be anywhere close to totaled. The front bumper, headlamps, and hood were heavily damaged, but the damage ended just behind the headights. However, because of the 'crumpliness' of the car, the engine and drive train shifted causing big dollars in damage. Also the insurance guy said the minute you have airbag deployments you are at $5k and up just for the bags.
I was just making an observation that cars are more 'disposable' nowadays due to unibody construction, lots of (non-repairable) aluminum up front, and crumple zones. I don't want to sound old, but cars used to be made out of steel and more steel.
I kinda feel that if I still had my 2001 Mercedes E55 AMG that the damage would have been less extensive. The sheet metal on it was pretty heavy. My TL though is much more high tech, much better mileage, and pretty quick; just not as fun to drive (granted my E55 cost me more than double my TL when I bought it back in 2001).
As far as my speed, the speedlimit was 45 which I was either at or under when I started braking. The road was wet, and with ABS there were no skid marks to measure speed. So I am estimating 30mph-ish at impact.
By the way, my insurance company has been very good to me. Since the car is only 2 months old, they are buying me the exact same car along with my dealer add ons (protection package, mats, locks, rear wing spoiler, moonroof deflector) and all I have to pay is my $500 deductible.
2006 TL w/Navi and all those accessories for $34,000 plus tax including all other fees. (I got a great deal through Acura of Troy, Michigan via their internet sales. Used the Edmunds prices forum for best price advice)
My insurance company is Liberty Mutual, this is my first accident claim in 7 years with them. Hopefully my rates don't go up!
#8286 of 9045 Re: Marketing/Demographic Data of TL Buyer [bodble2]
Mar 01, 2006 (7:39 pm)
"Male, post-secondary education, middle management or professional, upper-middle class."
Hey, that's me!
By the way, most Acura TL drivers that I've seen on the road have been male.
I'm conscious of that because I bought a 1994 Ford Probe GT back in 94 which I thought was a stylin' sports car. Until I noticed that 90% of drivers were women! Now that I think of it, it was sort of 'phallic' looking and the name itself a little suggestive. Wasn't the most masculine vehicle to be seen in.
The TL is the exact opposite - wedgelike, nice lines, aggressive looking grill. Great car!
#8287 of 9045 Ejecting CDs without power??
Mar 01, 2006 (7:55 pm)
My TL has no power after being totalled and I cannot eject my CD's from the changer. Hooking up a jump box, or new battery does not help. Fuses seem to be okay.
Does anyone know how to get them out without power or if there is a bypass to power up the radio long enough to eject?
They are taking my car away tomorrow and I have 6 CDs in there I want!
#8288 of 9045 Re: Disposable cars nowadays [aaron_mi]
Mar 01, 2006 (8:40 pm)
Well you're luckier than I was. I was in an accident less than 4 months into my new car and it WASN'T totalled. Instead, it was in the shop for over 3 months. It came back in very good condition, but I certainly would have preferred a new one. I've been told that insurance companies are very reluctant to total cars less than 1 year out, as it is a no-win situation for them, but cheaper to fix than replace in most circumstances...
And, YES, your rates will most certainly go up. But there's nothing you can do about that...its part of the no-win insurance game. They'll get their pound of flesh...
Glad you're OK...
#8289 of 9045 Re: Ejecting CDs without power?? [aaron_mi]
Mar 02, 2006 (5:01 am)
when you hook up the jumper box or the new battery, is there any power to the inside of the car. Does the radio do anything? I was just thinking that maybe the radio won't work because it needs the security code put in first.
#8290 of 9045 Re: Disposable cars nowadays [liferules]
Mar 02, 2006 (12:01 pm)
My wife was crunched between 2 trucks in her Sienna minivan, and the crumple zones actually helped prevent the car from being totalled. Apparently, the crumple zones made the front end and back end removable from the main passenger compartment, and since the engine wasn't damaged, it wasn't totalled.
Frankly, I wish it were totalled - it took 'em 6 mos to finish the work - it's still not done, but we have the car back and it's only minor stuff remaining. Still, I'd rather have the cash to buy a new vehicle.
#8291 of 9045 Re: Ejecting CDs without power?? [bhelsdon]
Mar 02, 2006 (6:11 pm)
Nope, no power to anything at all inside the cabin or anywhere else on the car for that matter.
#8292 of 9045 Re: Disposable cars nowadays [aaron_mi]
Mar 03, 2006 (7:01 pm)
Glad to hear that your O.K.
Last May, just as I started to go through an intersection, a red light runner went full speed (40 mph) through the intersection from my left and clean-shaved the front off my TL. Bumper, grill, etc. were gone and the headlamp glass was broken. But not a single metal panel was touched. My damages were $3,000 (headlamps alone were $900). The dealer body shop manager said that if I had gone 6-8 more inches into the intersection before being hit, the car would have been totaled. That's about $4,000 an inch I saved by braking in time.
Speaking of which, as I understand your description, the truck you hit was stopped, you were going 45+/- when you saw it and hit the brakes, but you only slowed to 30+/- at impact? How close were you before you saw it? The brakes in my TL 6-speed seem very good, but I've never activated the ABS. Do you think your brakes/tires worked well? I don't know what the stopping distance from 45 would be in a TL on a wet road, but it sure doesn't sound like you slowed much before impact.
P.S. On your Liberty Mutual insurance, two suggestions: (1) Hopefully you won't have any other accidents, but if you do, don't report any that are your fault under about $2,500. Pay for the damages out of pocket - it will be much cheaper than being kicked over to the high risk category fro 5-7 years. (2) Don't buy another E55 anytime soon.
#8293 of 9045 No Brake Dust.
Mar 05, 2006 (4:17 pm)
I noticed that my 2006 TL has virtually no brake dust. My old BMW has a ton of annoying brake dust.
#8294 of 9045 Re: No Brake Dust. [twmark]
Mar 05, 2006 (7:54 pm)
On the last brake job for my '99 CRV, they used the new ceramic pads......no dust whatsoever. Maybe Acura used that???