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Acura TL, Sedan
Dec 08, 2004 (9:24 pm)
ACURA / NHTSA document
Acura CLS 2000-2001
AVG miles to failure = 12,970 miles, many at less than 6k miles
Number of failures of ACURA CLS according its build month
Jan 00 0 0.0%
Feb 00 2 1.4%
Mar 00 3 0.1%
Apr 00 22 0.7%
May 00 25 0.8%
Jun 00 15 0.5%
Jul 00 5 0.2%
Aug 00 15 0.5%
Sep 00 10 0.3%
Oct 00 40 0.4%
Nov 00 41 0.4%
Dec 00 45 0.5%
Jan 01 12 0.3%
Feb 01 22 0.8%
Mar 01 18 0.5%
Apr 01 0 0.0%
May 01 12 0.4%
Jun 01 12 0.4%
Jul 01 0 0.0%
Aug 01 3 0.1%
Sep 01 2 0.1%
Oct 01 2 0.1%
Nov 01 0 0.0%
Dec 01 1 0.1%
See the page 486 title; this is for the TL and contains totals for codes by TL vehicle type. The Survey was done on vehicles sold by the end of AUG 2001 and the 3.2TL total was 14766 and 3.2TL Type-S was 15941
TL NAVI 4
TL TYPE-S 26
TL TYPE-S NAVI 14 (failures)
The extended warranty (7 years / 100k miles) applies to 2000-01 Honda Odyssey minivans; 2000-01 Honda Accord cars with automatic transmissions; 2000-01 Prelude; and 2000-03 Acura CL and TL cars. ( only 1.6% have had to have its transmission replaced )quoted from USA today.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2002-09-20-honda-warranty_x.h- - tm
No data found for TL 2004. If there is, we should be able to see/read/hear them because some tranny from previous model 2000-2002 failed at less than 1200 miles. I agree that this problem shouldnt have happened. But also not a single fact can back up the lawyer's claim (the 04). Hoping to catch more fish by stirring the pond?
Dec 09, 2004 (1:01 am)
my 2004 TL is driving fine, except for the veering to the right, and severe veer to right on braking.....
do you think Honda and Acura will be forthcoming and stand behind thier product...??
I hope so....
#6597 of 9045 Re: [danny1878]
Dec 09, 2004 (8:44 am)
Why would Honda recall the early 04s if there was not a problem? There have also been documented cases of these 04s breaking down.
I realize this is an Acura TL owners forum, but do not overlook the fact that failures are happening in all of hondas lineup including the accord and odyessy.
Honda knew there was a problem with this transmission as early as 2000 or so, and chose to do nothing until last year with the extended warranty ( offered only on certain years). It was not until this year that they finally recalled the transmission. Honda's solution early on was to just put in a rebuilt transmission with the same faults in it, and hence people were going through as many as 4 transmissions. This latest "fix" they have is just a cheap patch to keep it running unitl the warranty runs out.
Here is an example taken from the petition link that I posted here a page back or so :petition #2686. saundra Morton I will have had 2 transmissions put in my accura . The Accura dealership and customer service are refusing to pay for this 2nd one and the recall for these transmissions was just received a month and a half ago. I think something should be done with the honda customer service and dealers since you cannot get any results when they are at fault with these faulty transmissions. 2001 accura 3.2 tl
How would you feel if your transmission went out and Honda refused to take care of it? We all risk running into this sooner or later.
#6598 of 9045 found this today when looking for info on 99 TL
Dec 09, 2004 (12:58 pm)
Here is another example of Honda Engineering at its best:
Recall #99V227000 - ACURA 3.5RL
NHTSA Campaign Number: 99V227000
Vehicle/Equipment Make: ACURA
Vehicle/Equipment Model: 3.5RL
Model Year, 9999 If Unknown Or N/A: 1999
MFR Campaign Number: K68
Component Description: POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Manufacturer's Involved In The Recall: AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO.
Begin Date Of Manufacturing: 19980824
End Date Of Manufacturing: 19990629
Vehicle, Equipment Or Tire Report: V
Potential Number Of Units Affected: 96518
Date Owner Notified By MFR: 19990830
Recall Initiator (MFG/OVSC/ODI): MFR
Manufacturer Responsible For Recall: AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO.
Date Report Received By ODI: 19990830
Date Added To File: 19990830
Regulation Part Number:
Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard Number:
Defect Summary: VEHICLE DESCRIPTION: PASSENGER VEHICLES. A TRANSMISSION CASE BOLT CAN LOOSEN AND FALL OUT ALLOWING THE TRANSMISSION TO DISENGAGE FROM THE DIFFERENTIAL.
Consequence Summary: THE VEHICLE COULD LOSE POWER TO THE DRIVE WHEELS WITHOUT WARNING. ALSO, SHIFTING THE TRANSMISSION INTO THE PARK POSITION WOULD NOT LOCK THE WHEELS, AND A PARKED VEHICLE COULD MOVE UNEXPECTEDLY IF THE PARKING BRAKE IS NOT SET.
Corrective Summary: DEALERS WILL INSTALL A REDESIGNED BOLT.
Dec 10, 2004 (12:26 pm)
Maldorf, I think we get the point that you are unhappy with what has happened to you and your TL. If you'd like to give us updates as your case progresses, we'd like to hear them, but it's not necessary to keep posting your displeasure over and over. The folks here have heard you and I'm sure they offer you their sympathies, but it's time to let this conversation move on now.
Hope everything works out for you.
Dec 10, 2004 (1:53 pm)
Ditto to Pat.
But Maldorf also mentioned "There have also been documented cases of these 04s breaking down."
That's new to me. I hope Maldorf can provide some 'document' here to back that up, if nothing, at least for his/her own credibility.
Dec 10, 2004 (6:03 pm)
Is premium fuel required in the 2005 TL or just recommended?
#6602 of 9045 Re: FUEL [golfnut5]
Dec 10, 2004 (6:59 pm)
#6603 of 9045 Free Acura Gift Card
Dec 11, 2004 (12:03 am)
I received a post card from Acura last week thanking me for being a loyal customer. It went on to say that as a show of appreciation, they would be sending me a gift card which I could use on service, parts, accessories, it was up to me. I received the card two days ago, and to my surprise, it was for $100! Has anyone else received a card, and if so, for how much?
#6604 of 9045 Re: [igiban]
Dec 11, 2004 (12:33 pm)
Well, the issue has been discussed more than enough I am sure. Later down the road when I hear from the lawyers I will give you a heads up as to what is going to happen. I stand nothing to gain in this suit, I was just asked to provide some testimony. I just wanted to help the legal team get their point accross. The 99 I had that broke down is long gone, turned it in after the lease was up. My main concern now is the resale value of my 03.
It seems no matter how many people have their transmission break down, some people choose to not care as long as their car was manufactured after the transmission was "fixed".
There really is not any point in me trying to find documentaion backing my claim about the 99. Fact is there was a problem, and continues to be one now for over 5 years.