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#6090 of 9045 Re: 30,000 Mile service-- recommended or a rip off? [jwats #6088]
Jul 01, 2004 (5:19 am)
I own a 2001 MDX and 2004 TL. When I go to the dealer I always specify what I want done; oil change, filters, A1, etc. I always take my information from the Acura manual. They are constantly advising me that unnecessary maintainence is "recommended", but they fail to say by whom. Examples: they tell me I should change the rear-end fluid on the MDX at 15,000. When I tell them the factory calls for this $100 service at 30,000 miles they say, Oh? They said I should get my radiator fluid changed at 45,000 miles when the factory calls for every 120,000. What I believe is really happening is they are "pumping up" their margins by praying on unsuspecting, unknowledgeable motorists rather than any real concern from their car maintainence. If my car stops in the parking lot when I arrive, the brake check is complete, the same for the other "inspections" they want to perform for $300. If you know anything about dealerships, you find they make most of their profits in the service bays. Also, most will have a minimum charge i.e.$200 they try to reach on each service visit i.e. $300 for the 30,000 mile check. That is why, when I leave my car with instructions on what I want done, I can almost countdown the time until the service writer/sales person calls with some reccomended-by-them service that the factory manual doesn't call far. As far as effecting my warranty, B.S.! They are trying to create fear and drive you to blindly accept their recommendations. Unnecessary service is one of the biggest dealer rip-offs going and is the reason why many dealerships, including my current Acura dealer, have such bad reputations with me.
#6092 of 9045 Re: change of opinion [bigdaddycoats #6091]
Jul 01, 2004 (7:12 am)
You would think Acura would heavily inspect/test-drive every car before any media road tests considering the consequences. This is a perfect example of what can happen if they don't. At least this guy was diligent enough to follow through and test-drive it again.
#6093 of 9045 Scheduled Service
Jul 01, 2004 (7:20 am)
I agree with previous posters on following the owner's manual for scheduled service. It is interesting how the dealers want to charge exhorbitant amounts for inspections at times and then at other times send out mailers to the house offering these same inspections for free.
#6094 of 9045 Re: change of opinion [aaargh #6092]
Jul 01, 2004 (1:59 pm)
I know for a fact that Acura keeps their PR cars (the ones loaned out to magazines, etc.) out constantly so I am not surprised that one vehicle went out at less than perfect shape. Lucky for them that they got a second chance.
#6095 of 9045 purchasing a 04 TL? JD Power survey
Jul 01, 2004 (3:47 pm)
I am seriously considering a 04 TL. My brother has an 03 TL-S and is happy with it. After lurking on this board I was concerned about fit and finish specifically the interior squeeks and rattles. I thought it may be a few individuals repeatedly complaining but then I looked at the JD Power initial quality survey (first 90 days of ownership) and the body/interior quality and mechanical quality both rated 2* out of 5*. Is this a case of owners expecting perfection or the reality of the situation? If the car has interior squeeks now what will it be like in 4 years? My 5 year old ES300 still does not have an interior squeek or rattle and the car has been (boringly) bulletproof.
#6096 of 9045 Re: purchasing a 04 TL? JD Power survey [lotusfla #6095]
Jul 02, 2004 (8:17 am)
I have had my 04 TL since December and only noticed interior squeeks and rattles a couple of times while driving on a bumpy paved road. It does not surprise me considering the body panels are filled with foam for sound dampening. I also wondered about the JD Powers survey. I had to email them to get them to chage the image displayed on the 04 TL review. They had a picture of an 03 TL. With my experience with the fit and finish of the car I believe they mistakenly crossed the review with a 1972 Datsun B210 Delux.
#6097 of 9045 JD Power Initial Quality
Jul 02, 2004 (9:16 am)
I checked 2004 Lexus ES300 (that's what they have, it should be ES330) and the initial quality indicates quite the same, only 2 circles for the mechanical quality.
#6098 of 9045 Re: JD Power Initial Quality [sopecreek #6097]
Jul 02, 2004 (10:41 am)
But ES330 does earn 5 stars on body/interior, as expected from a Lexus. Its Mechanical may be plagued by some tranny issues. Not sure about TL's tho? Rattles and squeaks may drag down Body/interior's score, but Mechanical on TL 2 stars as ell, what gives?
#6099 of 9045 Re: purchasing a 04 TL? JD Power survey [rrorison #6096]
Jul 03, 2004 (9:52 am)
I suspect that JD Powers info is on early 04 TL's - and the early TL's did seem to have some problems based on what I see in this forum. But mine (built in Feb.) is great (except for the tires) and I think I see a pattern in the forum that the newer ones have many less problems. I would be surprised if Acura didn't quickly fix the production problems they had early in the model year.
As far as the tires are concerned I think they may be recalled - a birdy at my dealership whispered in my ear.